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The Freije Company, Indiana Complaints & Reviews - Fraudulent "water 'conditioner'" |
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Fraudulent "water 'conditioner'"
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Company information:
The Freije Company
6450 Guion Rd.
Indiana
United States
Phone: 317.291.6130
thefreijecompany.com
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My boss purchased a device she believed would make water "soft" merely by wrapping a wire from the device around her water pipe. This is impossible; I did not know she had purchased the fraudulent device until a year after she had done so and I saw it "installed" in her house. If she had asked me first before buying the device I would have explained to her the basic physics involved and why the device cannot do what the sellers claim it can do.
The device's web site claims the device can perform the impossible: however, no electromagnetic field can perform ion exchanging and "soften" water, no matter what frequency that field might be subjecting to the water, no matter what gauss.
The web site claims "EasyWater is a water conditioner that physically changes the minerals in water to prevent them from forming scale." That is not possible with any electromagnetic field: water is paramagnetic, not ferromagnetic. Nor can a little wire wrapped around a water pipe apply any inductive field, no matter how clever the engineer, that will modify the water in any way.
It's a scam; a fraud; a crime, and the seller should be prosecuted as such. Yet the person selling these worthless devices is selling them for as high as $1, 979 each.
Please ask any of your hydroengineer or chemical consultants to look at the claims on the web site: that consultant will tell you it is a fraud and that the device claims to perform a miracle.
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Where on the companies own website does it say they will "soften" the water? Please find it.
Also, have you considered contacting any of their commercial customers to see if they have any complaints as well? Maybe that would help your case. |
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I see that there are a few more scams that are similar to this one but the Freije scam is considered the "worse" when it comes to money lost. Purdue University has warned people to stay away from the scam. Note that the scam is based upon the United States Patent 6325942; the seller's "explanation" for how he claims it "works" is pure bullshit, and anyone with a decent high school education or higher will know it is bullshit. An electromagnetic field cannot change water, let alone perform ion-swapping.
I see that the company Eli Lilly was taken by this scam.
Mr Freije did not originate the scam, however: the claim that magnets can effect water is very old, and it is of course false. |
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Ok, I checked back to see if you'd actually found anything relevant. Unfortunatly for anyone reading your top notch review, you hadn't.
Where are you getting your information from? Where is this info about Purdue and Eli Lilly coming from? Where on their own website does it mention electro magnets??? First it was the softening thing, now this.
And honestly, anyone with a decent high school education or higher will know it's "worst", not "worse".
Please post something factual, or don't post at all. There are people like myself that are looking for actual information on these products, not some third hand account of competitors mudslinging. |
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| I installed this in my house in INDPL, I love it! Getting ready to install in my townhouse in SanAntonio, TX. will not EVER use a water softener again, at 56 will go down HARD! Thank you EasyWater System. |
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"I installed this in my house..."
So, you got taken by the scam also. Well, don't worry: you can probably get your money back if you file a complaint with the BBB and the FTC. Good luck. |
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David, another top notch comment. Keep up the good work.
http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/chaplin.html
Oh look, someone who says it will work. And he's not just some "activist" that lives in the middle of the desert. |
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I don't know about Purdue, but here's a Penn State report on the subject:
http://resources.cas.psu.edu/WaterResources/pdfs/magnetic.pdf
Some people think you can sharpen razor blades by putting them in pyramid, too. As they say, "A fool and his money are soon parted." |
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| Congratulations. You just brought up a report that is over 20 years old, and doesn't have anything to do with the technology that Freije claims to be using. |
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Let me change that. A report that uses information that's over 20 and in some cases, 30 years old.
Desertphile and Snorks. Are you seriously going to deny that there is a possibility that the system works? That a test was not done with Rinnai, with an Easywater system completely preventing scale from forming? Are these pictures not accurate, or doctored (they come from Rinnai themselves, so there's no reason to do that, but let's play a little Devil's advocate.) in some way to report descaling when none occurred?
http://www.glanzphc.com/easywatertreatments.htm
I've emailed the WQA, and they won't even comment on Easywater...because they can't. They don't have a test for descalability. The rep even admitted this. She pushed a salt water softener in my direction because they can test whether or not that water is safe to drink. Honestly, they are no help in helping to find a solution for scale issues.
"As they say, "A fool and his money are soon parted."" And Ken Olson, the CEO of DEC once said, "There is no reason any individual to have a computer in his home."(in 1977 no less, the same time frame as the research for that paper), , Einstein doubted you could split an atom, and many said cars would never replace horses. |
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Let's see...A Published report from a highly acclaimed University by professors with decades of education that have no
financial gain from their conclusions. And no other similar research or reports have been published since that time to
claim otherwise.
The scientific results have not changed since these published reports were made. Yes, science can change over
time...but with research done in similar circumstances subsequently published by qualified people.
So, to simply quote that the age of a report may have some diminished affect is irrelevant.
Now go ahead and read the testimonials from customers. You'll read what you want to hear.
A $1000-$200 magic box with electric wires that wrap around a pipe. It must work because they say so. They even have
pictures to prove it. Please people WAKE UP!
If you have nothing else to waste your money on, at least donate it to a worthy cause. |
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..been in the water treatment business for over 15 years and continue to explain to customers that ask...
"If it worked I'd be selling it." No dice so far for any of these alternative systems. If I could find a no-chemical or salt; no water waste system that can fix our water in NM, I'll become a millionaire! |
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| If any of these alternatives could handle NM water, I tell our customers at WaterMart that I'd carry it. We have a water treatment museum in our store with some of these gimmicks hanging on the wall. We replace magnets, blinking lights, and wound wires with conventional equip. quite often. |
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I am not here to dispute or confirm that this product is legitimate. I am actually doing research for a family member before they invest in this water system.
I have been digging through many threads that state pro’s and cons for both sides of the argument. The pro’s all seem to be different variations of literature provided by the Parent Company and the product website itself. I have only found a handful of true recounts of the system working as reported.
However, I only found three complaints on the BBB in IN., where the company headquarters is located. With three complaints for the two years they have been in business, I would say that is not bad. Especially for a company that sells a consumer product of this nature. You can go to the BBB online and look it up yourself.
I have contacted the FTC in writing for information good or bad. I am sure this will mostly yield complaints. However, if the FTC finds that the product or company not to be credible, then I am sure they will send a response as to an official position on the company or product.
On the other side of the coin. I have heard EasyWater is a scam by many people. I am sure I won’t need to list them to make the point. One consistency that I find curious is that several plumbing professional have spoken up against this product.
One letter I found on the “This Old House” discussion board I found very informative. It was posted by a plumbing professional in Central Florida. His post is #7 located here at this link http://advice.thisoldhouse.com/showthread.php?t=5152. I suggest your read the entire thread.
I am not a Chemical Engineer, Mechanical Engineer or Scientist, nor am I a Biologist or Plumber. What I am, I am a consumer and I work in the Financial Industry. So I analyze money and services. One thing I am, I am a skeptic of is a too good to be true products. I have found that if a product or service sound too good to be true, and then generally it is just that, “too good to be true.”
I have more research to complete before I say yea or nay on the purchase of the EasyWater System.
P.S. As to the comment about whether or not the company says they soften water or not… Well, on the front page of the website, at the bottom, they have a footer that states
“EasyWater: The No Salt Water Softener Alternative”. I read that as another way to achieve softer water. |
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| I just started doing research myself so when my 9 year old water softner stops working I'll be informed. I know a few people who have the No salt water conditioner and they love it! After I stumbled upon this site it occured to me, after reading the numerous negative comments, that competitors would use this site to their "advantage"! How does a person know what to believe??? Competitor or factual information??? To me, a person who leaves numerous negative posts would be a clue! Competitor!!!1 |
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| I don't know whether it works or not but I do know that many of the worlds "leading minds" have been wrong about quite a few things. One common thread I notice is none of the detractors seem to have tried it or talked to those who have. I have a friend who markets a ESP system for water conditioning. When I looked at it, it looked like snake oil stuff to me but there are people who swear by it. The best thing to do is if possible find out where installations are to be done and go out and investigate the before and after. Then make your best choice it's your water, your health and your money and it's you rchoice. |
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| Soft water has very low TDS. Total Dissolved Solids. If you could magnetically change the particles, you need to get rid of them somewhere (down the drain). You can soften water with electrodialysis reversal but still have waste products to dispose of. The Easy Water system wraps a wire around a pipe. Cow Magnets are cheaper. |
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| It's amazing to see negative comments from people who don't understand physics. It is not snake oil. |
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I've been following this topic on several threads. I suspect the partisan nature of EasyWater's sponsorships may be coloring the debate (Hannity, Glenn Beck). Their listners aren't known for their impartiality.
I started looking into this because I have really hard water that is tough to clean, and shortens the lifespan of some appliances to about 7 years, and I'm about ready to replace two dishwashers and two hot water heaters on a property with two homes. They share the same well.
I live in one of the homes, and I hated the traditional water softener. I did the math and found that softening the water cost as much as replacing the dishwashers and water heaters every seven years. Also, the water didn't taste right, and it didn't feel right in the bath or shower. So I had it removed a few years ago. Every glass of water I drink confirms that decision.
I recently found that one of the houses also had a cord wrapped around the inlet pipe, and after asking the previous owner, he explained to me that it was the type of product that EasyWater makes. The amount of scale buildup on the two houses is the same, even though the first house has had this gadget 'working' for about ten years.
I'd love for EasyWater to actually work, but until I can find some reputable source, I'm going to hold on to my money. (Animal Grandma, I followed your links, but couldn't find where Doctor Chaplin is advocating EasyWater, or cites a study that would verify EasyWater's claims.)
The article linked by Snork is rather old, but until someone can show me a more contemporary, reliable finding, I'll have no reason to doubt it (I've quoted it below).
In the meantime, testimonials about people using EasyWater being really happy... I bet at least half of them pulled out a saline water softener. When you do that, you're going to enjoy better tasting, non-slimy water, and in some cases better water pressure; even if you don't replace it with an EasyWater product.
"A third study conducted in 1985 at Purdue
University tested six units placed on water supplies
for water heaters and tested their effectiveness against
a controlled system."..." The study concluded that
no significant variation in the chemical water quality
existed between the control and the “treated” systems.
The units also produced no measurable effect
on calcium deposits on metals (Alleman, 1985).
Supported by this evidence, the Canadian Water
Quality Association issued a statement in March of
1987 that magnetic water treatment devices are
ineffective in treating" |
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I am ordering a unit from Scalewatcher. http://www.stopwaterscale.com/residential.htm
For me, I am the best reputable source and generally don't accept anecdotal evidence from those I don't know (including bad reports), but also do not need a peer reviewed study to sway me either way having seen enough of those turning out to be wrong.
I'll be back here reporting the results good or bad after 3 months of use as it will be difficult to refute the evidence based on how bad the buildup is on the showerhead, sinks etc., and the water heater. |
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| I installed the easywater treatment system and it has done an AMAZING job for me! I no longer have to use chemicals to clean my shower, sinks, toilets, faucets, etc! THIS IS THE BEST PRODUCT OUT THERE!!! Thanks Freije!!! |
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