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I had put together numerous bills that an ex had left me stranded with over eight years ago for a large loan. All of a sudden I receive a letter from this Tate & Kirlin Associates saying my account from one of these bills has been turned over to them! I contacted my bank immediately and recovered the check that was used to pay this bill over eight years ago. I have tried faxing this proof to them for over four flipping weeks now and they keep telling me there is nothing wrong with their fax machine. I have ALSO mailed a copy of this proof three different times and conveniently they haven't received it any of the three times yet. This is absolutely ridiculous! I can't wait until they say that I am delinquent yet because their ### will be mine in court WITH the proof that this account had been settled eight years ago with the company's signature on the check!

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Honeybunch
, US
Apr 05, 2017 3:10 am EDT

My husband received a letter from T & K about owing for 2 subscriptions which he didn't order on-line. He had ordered something else and in the very small print, the subscription was set up. Immediately we called the creditor and canceled the subscription and requested a Notice to Return. They emailed me the requests the same day. I sent the items back to them 7 days later unopened. We went to our bank who researched everything including talking to the merchant's bank, who agreed there was an error and the money was credited backed to his account in June of last year. My husband has A+ credit, house is paid off and vehicles are paid for so there is no reason for this to be sent to him.
So to let you know, I save every email, every bit of paperwork, write down dates, names and and time I spend talking with somebody about anything that I return or have questions about. Yes, I have all the paperwork and I always send my packages out through the same office so they are going to track it. I will be sending the paperwork by certified or registered mail so i can see who signs for it. Earlier, there is someone who listed things to ask them for and I have added those requests to the letter. We will see what happens. We also do not answer an unknown number on our phones. Too many scams out there.

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AidenPearce
, US
Feb 13, 2017 5:17 pm EST

I just missed a call from these fools. They didn't leave a message, so I called the number back. Upon hearing this "Tate and Kirlin" debt crap, I immediately ended the call (with good reason, I'll explain in a sec) and started investigating. I quickly found this site and have read all of these horror stories.

I ignored them was because I was already sure it was a scam. I'm only 18, and still live with my parents. I have never had a bank account, or have signed up for payment plans of any kind. I have only paid for things in full via cash or debit card. No credit cards, no LOANs, no nothing. They had absolutely no reason to call. I'm more than sure that they just got my name and number from the company I was recently hired at, and thought I'd be their next victim.

Crap like this happened to me before. Some other ### I don't remember the name of called me when I was 16 saying I had incurred some debt or another. Not knowing any better, I went ahead and talked to them. After this stupid mess of a story, I then told them my age and asked how it was possible for me to have a debt from 2 years ago as I would have been a 14 year old then. She VERY quickly got quiet and started grasping for straws trying to not sound completely stupid(surprise, she failed). She settled on finding an excuse to hang up. They never called back after that.

So take it from someone from whom it's LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to have an unpaid debt of some sort. This "company" is nothing more than a scam. If they were even remotely reputable, they would not be calling me at all.

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jones3317
, US
Oct 27, 2016 6:19 pm EDT

I just received a letter from T&K stating that i owed a charged off debt that was recently taken off of my credit report, this has been well over 7 years since I have made a payment. I bought the vehicle in Washington state and their SOL is 6 years, i moved to West Virginia and their SOL law is 10. Which do they go by? also Has anyone else actually had T&K report on their credit report?

heres my email if anyone can let me know, thanks again.
eric.jones3317@yahoo.com

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cherokeecrafts
, US
Sep 29, 2016 9:30 am EDT

Just bought a house in Wagoner, Ok. Since getting my new phone # Tate & Kirlin has been calling me looking for someone name JD Summers or some such name at my phone number. As usual Windstream Phone Co. didn't hold this number long enough to clear problems. Now I've got them.
Have answered phone several times and told people calling and called the [protected] back and told more people that there is no one by the name their calling at this number and I've only had # 3 weeks now, please remove my phone #. Still getting calls and now going to call the Do Not Call Registry and make a formal complaint about this company.

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Navarr Jenkins
, US
Sep 21, 2016 11:59 am EDT

Also, the troll posters saying anyone pointing out this companies scam is just a dead beat who needs to pay their debts - well, they're probably a part of that company. Use your brain people. Don't fall for the obvious bull that group of people try to shovel on you. Give them the finger, then report them for fraud.

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Navarr Jenkins
, US
Sep 21, 2016 11:57 am EDT

A false claim arrived from them in the mail today. They claim I owe Chase over $19k, but I have never had any outstanding debt with that bank. In fact, I have no outstanding debt with any bank or other creditor. I double checked my credit report to make sure something incorrect hasn't been reported under my name, but the credit bureau reports are all still accurate and none show the debt that Tate & Kirlin claims I owe.

Seems this company just makes up debt, maybe hoping unsuspecting people will pay the offer they make (mine was I only have to pay 30% of the fictitious $19k debt) without digging deeper.

The people behind this scam should be imprisoned for fraud.

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RussWoody
Chicago, US
Sep 13, 2016 10:56 am EDT
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If anyone has received a collection letter fro Tate for an old debt, please feel free to fax it to me at [protected]. I am an attorney and would be interested in determining if Tate has violated the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.

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sansoo6
, US
Feb 12, 2016 12:34 pm EST

There website www.paytka.com asks for credit card information without using HTTPS:// (security). This is a sign of either a scam or an incredibly stupid company. All your CC and personal data is sent without encryption.

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Jim Cubby
, US
Nov 11, 2015 1:11 pm EST

ADT Scam or Not. You be the Judge. My husband (veteran) and cosigner on the above mentioned ADT contract, passed away on October 6, 2014. Due to extenuating circumstances, I needed to sell my home in Florida. On October 15, 2014, I called ADT to disconnect the alarm equipment. I moved out on October 22, 2014 and moved in with my son and his family in their home in Plano, Texas. They are long time ADT customers. My home sold on November 7, 2014.

On November 17, 2014 I called ADT again to confirm that the equipment had been disconnected. Their agent confirmed that it was, but stated that just because the equipment had been disconnected, did not also mean that the service contract had been cancelled. So, I asked to have it cancelled. She said I needed to give 30 days’ notice, so I would still need to pay for December and that December would be my last bill. She also stated that because I was breaching the contract, I would be charged $1095.17.

I do not believe that the above stated situation would constitute a breach of contract. The ADT contract states that I must own the premises where the equipment is installed and serviced. I no longer own the premises. This is a contract for service and I no longer own a premises for ADT to service.

In addition, you have raised my initial rate of $55.99 per month twice now. Once during the first year it was raised to $59.35 and finally to $60.43. I never agreed to these increases.

Therefore, I RESPECTFULLY DISPUTE THE VALIDITY OF THIS ALLEGED DEBT. My final payment (Check #1259) was processed by ADT on December 31, 2014.
I'm now being aggressively pursued by this collections firm. What's your VERDICT?

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Maggie Valera
, US
Oct 30, 2015 7:52 pm EDT

This is a 3rd party collection agency. They bought the debt from another company for a fraction of what was owed in the attempt to collect and make a profit. The important part to remember is that legally, you no longer owe them money. They don't care if it's been resolved, etc. because they don't make money on that.

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jmonaco511
New Rochelle, US
Nov 11, 2011 1:43 pm EST

This company has been calling me several times every single day claiming that I owe them money. I do not have any outstanding debt and I asked them several times to stop calling me. I sent a written request for them to stop calling and they ignored me. I want to now take legal action.

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TrueHelp
Surprise, US
Jan 15, 2015 4:23 pm EST

Mail a cease and desist via signed delivery so you have proof. Also of you request the proof of debt they will not have it and cannot legally collect. You can go to the credit bureaus and provide the information and it will be removed if they even reported.

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davianna m fincher
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May 10, 2007 12:00 am EDT

these tate and kirlin agent are who ever they are have been calling my ever day 10 to 20 times aday, and iam about to report tem to the better business bur. iam so tried of them, now what i did is start calling them and each i do the one same person keep answereing the phone with a different name each there is some thing gooin on with them every one that works with this company all have the achent. they all sound alike.

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Idtheft
Saint Helena, US
Nov 24, 2014 11:54 am EST
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Tate and Kirlin associates are con artists and seeds.they must be stopped.they sent me a letter from a defunct company called Terry loan holdings. Terry loan holdings filed bankruptcy in 2008 they are no longer in business. I do not even have a student loan.this is malicious debt collection at its worst. I hope they all burn in hell.

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Ladeewhoknowsbetter
, US
Oct 13, 2014 6:32 pm EDT

Contact the Consumer Financial Collection Agency (CFPB) they are a Federal Govnt Agency that handles the financial issues such as debt collection. These people are not even rated with the BBB. If they are indeed contacting you outside of the line of the law which debt collectors have to follow report them. I have fax to the CFPB copies of their notices and they are not legit.

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Harold Daniger
Danbury, US
Sep 16, 2014 12:43 pm EDT

My situation is very similar to the original complaint. They are attempting to extort money out of my elderly grandmother. They say she owes some ridiculous amount of money but only has to pay 15% for her debt to be cleared, however if she chooses not to, she may owe the full amount.

I have used two words here very deliberately, extort, and chooses. This is a legal form of extortion, and it is her choice whether or not she pays. My grandmother is under no legal obligation to pay the money however they are trying to threaten her with the promise of unmanageable debt if she doesn't. The fact that they are willing to accept 15% of the 'full amount' should be the biggest hint that they are fully aware that she doesn't really owe them anything, and are therefore hoping to get whatever they can out of her.

As a final note, I do not believe my grandmother ever owed an original debt, she was never contacted by any of the companies listed as creditors prior to this one and I believe that Tate&Kirlin have resorted to some sort of cold-calling type tactic where my grandmother's name matched the name of someone on their file who they might not have had an address for. However I have no proof of this, it is merely my suspicion. What I do no for certain, and what I hope others will get out of this response, is that she is under NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO PAY. They have said many things to the contrary and have made many threats, but they are all empty threats, they know she doesn't have to pay.

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Judith Kaderabek
Albert Lea, US
Aug 28, 2014 2:24 pm EDT
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The other day I received a call from Tate & Kirlin Assoc. for a debt-still not sure what debt it is as I wrote it down as schooling debt but they said something else. Anyway, I already paid the debt and I have proof on paying it in which I will send to them. When I told them I paid it, how I paid it and when, they have no record of it. Are you kidding me? If I didn't have record of paying it I would be screwed plus now they want more money then what we already agreed upon-go figure.

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Juliorz
Hialeah Gardens, US
Jul 03, 2014 1:59 pm EDT

They sent me a letter regarding a Capital One card, I have never had a Capital One Account Period!

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Buttons01
, US
Apr 22, 2017 8:31 pm EDT
Replying to comment of Juliorz

I got the same letter and I've never had one either! How do I dispute this?

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Superpissedrightnow
Cleveland, US
Oct 24, 2013 4:30 pm EDT
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Just spoke with Stewart from Tate & Kirlin. Total pain in the duff. I cannot understand the company Tate & Kirlin is calling on behalf of because his accent is so heavy. They are asking for my dob and ss# which I will not give. I cannot even understand this guy! I finally gave him dob, but with 1902 for the year I wAs born...dum-dum apparently didn't catch that would make me 111 years old and continued pressing for my ss#. I had asked for the dept that handles bankruptcies several times, as I was just discharged 2 months ago. He would not transfer me because he needed my ss# first. I finally said look, you said this is a recorded line so this is my bankruptcy case #, date I was discharged, and my attorney name and #. Contact him with any further inquiries. Stewart then starts with "wait, wait, wait, the line is breaking up and I cannot understand you. Please call back in 10-15 minutes". I said Stewart, what company areyoucalling on behalf of? He answered with his mumbo jumbo. I then said "we'll there you go a$$hole. Seems like you can hear me perfectly fine! Call my attorney with any further issues!

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SLIM1
Indianapolis, US
Mar 26, 2013 11:03 pm EDT

- (Unfortunately) This number calls me regularly. Caller ID displays calling number [[protected]], and "Name Unknown". When I don't answer incoming calls from this number, the call goes to my voice mail box, they never leave a message.
- When I answer with the greeting "Hello" several times, the calling party remains silent then simply hangs up.
- When I attempt to return their call -- It rings repetitively for over 3 minutes, then simply disconnects and goes to a dial tone.
- In researching the number on the Internet I found this site {among others}
- Some of the other 'interesting' tidbits that I've found and would like to share.:

* Courtesy of: you'll find the following post as well as several others:
codergrrl
30 Dec 2008
Called from another number and then this unlisted number. Sneaks and liars.
Caller ID: [protected]
Caller: TATE & KIRLIN
Call Type: Debt Collector
© Copyright 800notes.com 2009

* Courtesy of: :
TATE & KIRLIN ASSOCIATES
2810 Southampton Road
Philadelphia PA 19154
Tel: [protected] | Fax: [protected] | E-mail: tkainfo@tateandkirlin.biz
© 2011 Tate & Kirlin Associates Inc.

* Courtesy of: :
Contact Information
Address:
Tate & Kirlin Associates, Inc.
2810 South Hampton Rd
Philadelphia, PA 19154
Phone
tel: [protected] x300
Web Site:
info@tate-kirlin.com
"This is an attempt to collect a debt, and any information obtained may be used for that purpose."
Tate & Kirlin Associates, Inc. is a professional debt collection company.
© Tate & Kirlin Associates, Inc. [protected], All Rights Reserved

* "Interesting" comments can be found at / courtesy of:
© Scams Message Board - Copyright © [protected] www.Scam.com

* "Informative" comments related to 'T & K' can also be found at / courtesy of:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110121153958AATclGC
Copyright © 2013 Yahoo! Inc.

* You will definitely want to read the couple of consumer complaints here, courtesy of:

Pissed Consumer © All Rights Reserved

* You will also want to read the 4+ pages of consumer complaints from 3rd of Jul, 2008 to the present courtesy of Consumer Complaints Board here:

© 2013 Consumer Complaints Board

It has been "enlightening" for me researching these A** Holes who are relentless in their pursuit of harassing (apparently from numerous postings) not only my family but countless others.
I say "Harass" in that why would ANYONE repetitively call someone else, and not leave messages in the voice-mail box, or talk when the called party answers; if not for the intended purpose of "harassment'?

I hope that my posted information/data proves useful to others in knowing and understanding who these ruthless "adversaries" are.

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KARA1954
Hooksett, US
Dec 11, 2012 11:15 am EST
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JUST RECIEVED A PHONE CALLED FROM THEM 3 SECONDS AGO NO MESSAGES .JUST A HANGUP

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solycoco
margate, US
Oct 24, 2012 8:41 am EDT

bunch of dead beet owe money pay it. that way they don't call you're house, they were very sweet and respectful to me yeah they called a lot but that's there job. once i paid 2 years ago i never got a call again. so stop complaining and pay you're bills read you're contracts

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FED UP W/ AGGRAVATERS
Edwards, US
Sep 12, 2012 11:08 am EDT

Want to get rid of pesky people...i.e., bill collectors, telemarketers? Turn your land line ringer OFF, connect to answering machine. Have your friends call on your cell phone. These pesky people will not leave a message because they know they could be sued with proof.

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FED UP W/ AGGRAVATERS
Edwards, US
Sep 12, 2012 11:04 am EDT

You want to get rid of these pesky people...i.e., bill collectors...turn your land line phone ringer OFF, connect to answer machine. Have your friends call you on your cell phone. You never have to hear from the pesky people. They won't leave a message because they know they can be sued if they slip up.

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bfcarson
Gladys, US
Aug 21, 2012 7:49 am EDT
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i work for an industrial distributor out of Lynchburg VA and this company has continued to call hear looking for someone that is not employed by us. i have asked them to stop calling and remove us from their list. The same guy is always on the phone and he claims it was not him! i call Bull *Hit! is it not true, that if you ask them not to call a business, that they are to discontinue because it is against the law! How do you make them go away!

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Jeff Rules
Flavoland, US
Jun 18, 2012 4:17 pm EDT

Obviously someone from from Tate and Kirklin comes on here every 5 complaints or so and defends what a fine honest Company they are. They are ### Scammers! If they keep bothering me Im going to Carve Tate and Kirklin in my Forehead before I [censored]. They best leave me alone!

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suepredatorylender
Los Angeles, US
May 28, 2012 12:41 pm EDT

25 states, including California, do not allow collection of a deficiency on a purchase money HELOC after foreclosure. If you are contacted, DO NOT PAY-consult an attorney first. For a free evaluation, contact http://suepredatorylender.com. Info@suepredatorylender.com

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suepredatorylender
Los Angeles, US
May 28, 2012 12:21 pm EDT

Anyone that is being harassed about collection on a second mortgage after collection should consult an attorney. For a free consultation and class action evaluation, contact http://suepredatorylender.com

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Asuchick
Elgin, US
May 25, 2012 3:56 am EDT

Does anyone know what companies, they supposedly collect for? I have never had a WAMU or chase mortgage. I also never had crediy with sears, jcp, or any other GMAC that I know of. I have only had a discover card and its never been late. They started calling about a week ago, and I want to have a leg up on them.

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Iwillsueandwinscammers!
Catawissa, US
Jan 11, 2012 12:53 am EST
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1st of all loser who likes to call people dead beats because they haven't paid a bill, you probably only make about $6 and hour and still live at home with mommy and daddy because I was a debt collector at one point and know you don't make squat. Secondly ###, some of us had perfect credit (perfect enough to buy a $40, 000 vehicle brand new off the lot and could get any loan or credit card I wanted) until a separation that prevented me from taking care of a bill because of being too ill to work, but I don't beleive that makes me a dead beat. I just hit a rough patch in life and there wasn't a damn thing I could do. So considering that this opinion came from a little peon that probably hasn't experienced real life, I couldn't care less what the hell you say but feel I like I needed to speak out for those in similiar situations. Thirdly, the fact that I was a debt collector at one point also means I know about THE FAIR DEBT PRACTICE ACT. So maybe you ought to tell your reputable company that they really shouldn't try to collect more than is actually owed, because guess what, that is illegal and they will be sued. When a person pays there bill faithfully until it gets down to about $400-$500 and the company decides to write it off and their attorney that you've been making the payments to for the last couple yrs starts sending your checks back, then I stopped paying because it was written off. Then apparently this company bought the written off acct and thinks somehow that they can say I owe more than the actual debt was for, nevermind the couple thousand I already paid which brought it down to about $500. Why don't ya also tell these [censored]es that some people keep records of everything that was paid including the dates and check #'s. So it looks like I get to have a lttle fun and they'll be paying for me to go on vacation this summer. Give them a big high five for me. Oh, and you're not as smart as you try to sound. You're a debt collector, not a DR. Now I'm gonna go because it's probably past your bedtime.

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Iwillsueandwinscammers!
Catawissa, US
Jan 11, 2012 12:10 am EST
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Tate and Kirlin will be getting sued by me.

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collateraldamaged
Sacramento, US
Dec 11, 2011 4:25 am EST

NV Annual Report.com
TATE & KIRLIN ASSOCIATES, INC.
This information is current as of September 19, 2011.
Entity Name: TATE & KIRLIN ASSOCIATES, INC.
Status: Active File Date: 07/09/2010
Entity Type: Foreign Corporation File Number: E0328102010-3
Qualifying State: Pennsylvania
Annual List Due: 07/31/2012 List Fees Due: $125.00 (Estimate)
Managed By: Expires On:
Entity Age: 1 Year 5 Months
Registered Agent:
National Registered Agents, Inc. Of Nv

1000 East William Street Suite 204
Carson City, NV 89701
Phone: Fax:
No Par Shares: 10, 000 Capital Amount: $0.00
President
Harold E Tate Iii
2810 Southampton Rd
Philadelphia, PA 19154
Secretary
Harry J Kirlin
2810 Southampton Rd
Philadelphia, PA 19154
Treasurer
Harry J Kirlin
2810 Southampton Rd
Philadelphia, PA 19154
Director
Harry J Kirlin
2810 Southampton Rd
Philadelphia, PA 19154
Director
Harold E Tate Iii
2810 Southampton Rd
Philadelphia, PA 19154

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collateraldamaged
Sacramento, US
Dec 11, 2011 4:14 am EST

sour grapes...?
7th of Nov, 2009 by notadeadbeat
"Tate & Kirlin Owners Harold Harry Dick Tate and Henry Hank Kirlin are 2 low life bill collectors- nether is a lawyer or has any degree of any kind. Both started out as collectors for Joesph Neary on Frankford Ave in Philadelphia then Worked for Academy Collections - Keith Dickstein /and his step-father Sid Miller. I worked with all these people at one point or another- ### everyone of them. Read the FDCPA - know your rights- you DO NOT have to deal with these people"

or honest assessment ? I think the latter (that means the second answer...).

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collateraldamaged
Sacramento, US
Dec 11, 2011 12:20 am EST

BBB Accreditation
This business is not BBB accredited.
Additional Information
BBB file opened: May 21, 1996 Business started: 03/01/1992 - hunh...didn't take long for the complaints to make their way to the BBB I see...

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collateraldamaged
Sacramento, US
Dec 11, 2011 12:17 am EST

Let's see...can we find any background information on TKA?
BBB serving Metro Washington, DC and Eastern Pennsylvania - BBB Business Review
BBB B- Rating - On a scale of A+ to F Reason for Rating BBB Ratings System Overview
Factors that lowered the rating for Tate & Kirlin Associates include: 123 complaints filed against business !
123 complaints closed with BBB in last 3 years | 39 closed in last 12 months
Complaint Type Total Closed Complaints
Advertising/Sales Issues 1
Billing/Collection Issues 84
Delivery Issues 1
Guarantee/Warranty Issues 0
Problems with Product/Service 37
Total Closed Complaints 123

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sam.lemons
Sweetwater, US
Aug 11, 2011 8:35 am EDT
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these ### holes are trying to collect a debt from my mother that was setteled in court 2 years ago. on top of that my mom died a few weeks back! i would love to get my hands on thes ###!

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TooManyMorons
, US
Aug 07, 2011 3:21 am EDT

These people at Tate and Kirlin are absolute ###s. I keep getting letters from them sent to my address but they are addressed to people who don't even live here and who haven't lived here at least in the past 3-4 years (if ever.) They even sent someone at one point to have me sign - when I looked at the name, I told the guy that nobody by that name lives at this address. They're trying everything, even sending certified letters which need a signature. I keep going to the post office and telling them to return the letters to the sender because it's not my mail. I was half tempted to call them when I received the latest piece of mail but after reading some of these horror stories, I'm not going to call because I don't want them having my phone number (if they have Caller ID, etc.) Oh well, they're the ones wasting money on printing costs and postage, haha!

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Chocoroll
, US
Oct 20, 2018 11:26 pm EDT

Hello Idk if you still have this problem but they just send you a letter and your credit was fine ? Omand you reccomend not callibg them?

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artieshaw
Silver Spring, US
Aug 05, 2011 4:05 pm EDT

I just informed these people stop calling my home. They wanted me verify my phone number which I refused to do. I kept asking them for their address and they would not provide it. I now have their address and I will be filing a lawsuit against them.

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cookiemonster76
Fall River, US
Jun 09, 2011 1:19 am EDT

I just received a voice mail message from someone at Tate & Kirlin - they did not state who they are, what they were calling about or who they are looking for - the message is "I see how things are going and I am going to get you way worse, this is the hood". It's extremely unprofessional.

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fattrick
sacramento, US
Jun 04, 2011 9:02 pm EDT

T&K are crooks
I had a second mortgage that was charged off to them and now they are trying to collect. The amount was for 40, o00 dollars. Their first offer was 15, 000 then 8, 000 and then i said i would give them 3, 000 and they want me to send them W2 and tax returns and all kinds of ###. Any suggestions?