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SUBURBAN Propane, Robbinsville, New Jersey Complaints & Reviews - Overall service and ethics

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SUBURBAN Propane

Posted:    David Manchester

Overall service and ethics

Complaint Rating:  54 % with 96 votes
Contact information:
Suburban Propane
1142 Us Highway 130, Robbinsville, NJ 08691
Robbinsville, New Jersey
United States
Phone: 609-259-8825
suburbanpropane.com
Their propane tank and services were already at our house when we moved in. We moved in in August of 07 and had the 500 gallon tank filled (to 400 gallons) $1500 in December of 07, in January of 07 we had the tank filled again $1500! I was shocked that the tank was depleted so fast. We have a small house that is about 1100 square feet and use the propane for baseboard heat, stove and hot water tank heater. After a week or so I decided to check the line for leaks. So I went out and checked the line they hooked up to the house and found it was leaking! So I called right away and when the driver came out I showed him the leak. He commented " Oh that is a small leak..you smelled that from inside?" I said "no, obviously I would not be able to smell a leak that is occurring outside the house from inside the house." I told him that our extreme usage was what led me to test the line. He then went into a list of customers that use two taks a month and pay $1000's of dollars. I said my house is 1100 square feet and should not use that much gas, especially since we set the thermostat at 68 degrees. He had no comment on that, he just said he would report the leak and urged me to top off the tank, I said no, and said I was going to wait and see how they responded to the leak. He then asked three more times if I was sure I did not want him to top off the tank, I said affirmatively NO. So I had never heard from Suburban after he left and called them to find out what they were going to do about the leak. The customer service rep said that yes and that the driver with his expert "sense" of the leak ( I guess his eyes and nose are calibrated to detect CFM) said the leak was very small. She then said that they would reimburse me $40!! $40 out of $1500. I said that is crazy and asked her to talk to the manager, the manager then said that that is all they would pay and if I wanted to stop their services they would remove the tank for free . Gee thanks..So I switched to H&H gas who have been awesome! Initially they had to put in a 100 gallon tank next to suburbans because the ground gets soft from January to June. When they fill the 100 gallon tank they can only fill it to 80 gallons, so the little 80 gallon tank lasted me from January to April, I had it refilled in April and it lasted me to October! So I used a total of 160 gallons in 7 months! Mind you that most of those months are mild, but compared to using 400 gallons in one month from Suburban! As of yet Suburban has yet to pick up thier tank, it is still sitting in my yard. I called today as their last pickup date did not happen on the 14th of November. They now tell me the 30th of December, that is what prompted my post here.
I also still have yet to receive my $40 reimbursement !!! I would like to charge them every month for the time their tank has spent on my front lawn. If anyone knows anything I can do to get some retribution, please let me know.
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 5th of May, 2009 by   I h8 Suburban +1 Votes
They did the same to me. I had a tank already hooked up to my house. I used them for about 8 months, and was billed at least 40 gallons/month COD. I use propane for o2, dryer and oven. I found a great deal on a used tank so I grabbed it. I've used less then 10 gallons in about 1 1/2 months with my new tank. Either the Suburban tank had a leak or they fudged the numbers on my bill. I hope it didn't have a leak, it would be a huge mistake for them if I found out they put my family in any kind of danger for their shady profits.
 8th of May, 2009 by   Silvertongal +1 Votes
They are COMPLETE SCUMBAGS! We are COD, never order more than 100 gallons at a time. I wake up one morning and find a bill on our porch..they had filled the tank without ANY order being placed, plus they billed us instead of COD. Today they sent one of their little dirtbags out to lock our tank, even though we have been making big payments to pay off the $500+ bill for something we never ordered. Lets just say he left without locking the tank and we are through with them. This is the last straw. They never show up when they say they will, lie and say they came out even when you KNOW they didn't because you were watching for them all day, charge different prices for our tank and my parents tank which are on the same property..the list goes on. I'd like to shove their tank someplace the sun doesn't shine!
 8th of Dec, 2009 by   JRBECK +1 Votes
I hear your pain. I have had a Suburban Propane Tank in my backyard for about 2 years and if I could find that place to shove the tank I would be standing next to you. These Parasites have tried to charge me $10 per a gallon for propane when other companies like Ferrelgas was charging $1.89/gallon. I had this tank installed on a new construction shop so I had no idea how much the shop would use per year. I found that I did a real good gob insulating my shop so now because I don’t use huge amounts of Propane, Suburban wants to charge me from $4 and up for the gas I do use. I have thought about contacting one of those Consumer Advocacy Groups that like to use the Media to beat Companies like this up for their less than Ethical Business Practices.
 26th of Dec, 2009 by   destiny_driven +1 Votes
I HATE Suburban Propane to the point that if I found a magic lamp and a genie gave me three wishes, I would use one of them to put these frackers out of business for good! That is how much I hate these people. They have let my family freeze three years in a row, by allowing us to run out of propane. All three years, our bills were paid in full, yet these MORONS did not keep up on the automatic delivery. Today, they tried to charge me $165 emergency delivery fee to bring out propane, even though I do not owe them a penny. I told them to forget it. I would find a new vendor. Good bye Suburban, your services suck and I am no longer going to have to endure the pain of dealing with you!
 21st of Jan, 2010 by   Rosebud BB 0 Votes
I got SCREWED by them also. I also bought my home with filled tank . Not sure how much was in the tank but is was a 100 gal/lb tank. Went for 2 years without a refill. Not realizing I needed to switch it over to my name till it ran empty a week before Christmas. 1St fee $65. to switch to my name. They then came and filled it the begining of January. 2nd fee was in Febuary when I got a delivery and a bill for over $300. How could I have possibly used up that much in a month when I hadn't used that much in 2 years. I stupidly paid it. Two months later I got another bill . Again I paid it! Don't want my credit messed with! Now I was pissed. I put the nasty guard dog next to the tank and they couldn't fill it.This lasted about 6-8 months. To make a long story short my good old guard dog died of old age. They came in and supposedly filled the tank again. I don't for 1 minute believe it. At that time my Cocker Spaniel had a litter of puppies that were 4 weeks old and a female puppy dissappeared on the delivery day. How could that possibly happen since I live well off the road. I now again supposedly had a full tank that they wanted payment for plus a non usage fee ( going back to Aug) cause I didn't use enough. Remember I ran out in December and didn't sign up to get a delivery till Jan 2 years before. How do they figure the non usage fees from August? I got mad and refused to pay them for the $87. ? non usage fee. I was then harrassed constantly that they owned the tank and wanted it back or I would be in trouble. They assured me I would be paid for the fuel (100% full tank at the cost I paid for it) $3.99 . The pickup guy signed the papers that my tank was full. They gave me back $150. For a full 100 gal/lb tank that I just paid $3.99 a gal/lbs for! I now have a 35lb barbaque tank attached to my home since August 09! Guess what It is still giving me gass!
 21st of Jan, 2010 by   Rosebud BB 0 Votes
I'm the lady that wrote the last input and I can be reached at (973-875-6754) I have SAVED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY BILLS I hope you did too! Call me: Maybe we can do something about it! My E-mail is paradisebluepa@yahoo.com
 13th of Feb, 2010 by   The Palmers 0 Votes
Complaint filed with BBB

To give some background on this mess, Id like to say that we have had problems with this company from the very beginning 11/01/2008. It has always been very difficult to get any answers or we will get an answer and then something totally different will occur or end up on our bill/contract.
Upon arriving home on February 4th, 2010 at about 8.30PM with our 7 month old child, we discovered that we had no heat. We immediately contacted the emergency line shown on our bill with suburban propane but we were advised that they couldn't look at our account to see our last shipment. They said that since there was a possibility that there could be a leak, we should evacuate immediately and they would send someone over shortly to check for a leak. This of course was very startling to us, especially with the small child. We left right away and checked into a motel. First thing in the morning I went back to the house by myself to meet "Stephan, the Leak Tech" at 9.30AM, when I arrived he wasn't there and I waited until 9:45 and contacted him. He advised that he was told that someone had made a delivery and filled our tank, this of course had not happened. After making several more calls and finally getting in touch with someone that had any idea as to what was going on with my account, I was told that the delivery driver had tried to make a delivery but couldn't due to road conditions. We had a small snow storm on Tuesday Feb 2nd, but road conditions were fine and mail and UPS/Fed ex were making deliveries as usual. The entire time we have had service with them, they have never even let the tank get much under 50%, coming about once a week to check. Our tank running out would mean that they had skipped at least a month of service calls and nobody even bothered to contact us and let us know that they had any problems reaching us and the propane may be running low. After many more calls, someone finally made an emergency delivery and delivered a very small amount (Supposedly 1/2 a tank approximately, although no one at the After hours/ Emergency line can tell me who made this delivery or how they got it to us when the normal delivery truck could not). I activated the tank on Feb 4th and turned the heat back on in the house that evening. We received a very large amount of snow that Friday Feb 5th and left our house until the following Tuesday, upon returning home we again discovered that we didn't have any heat. We left and once again checked ourselves into a hotel and started calling suburban propane, once again we were given the run around being told that they were sending someone or that someone would call us back and of course none of this ever happened and they wouldn't even put us in contact with a manager. After asking for a manager for for 4 days and speaking with countless CSR's "James McKinney" finally returned our phone call today, Feb 13th. James was the least help and rudest person that I have come accross with Suburban. Ultimately, he had no resolution or answer for us other than that a delivery will be made when road conditions permit. The fact that our contract provides for automatic tank refill that they did not honor apparently has no bearing in the situation from his perspective. He basically said that he could not give us any assurances of even a discounted bill or re-couped hotel charges. The best answer he felt he could give us was that we should do our part in clearing the 'driveway' (a mile and a half gravel road which is not our personal driveway but a neighborhood drive) and that there was absolutely no one else that I could talk to and no possible resolution besides waiting for the snow to melt. The call de-volved further when he retorted that he "doesn't control the weather", and when he asked how I would propose to him that we could get a truck down there. When my obviously frustrated girlfriend heard my response to him and responded out of exhaustion, he almost terminated the call due to our 'abuse'. Our call ended with him telling me that we had no choice but to deal with this or we could contact corporate. We have a call into them but of course he didn't mention that they aren't open on the weekends. This has been a complete nightmare and I cant believe that they have put myself and my family in this terrible situation. Living in hotel rooms, with what little money we have after always making our large payments monthly to this company as shown in our contract. They have totally dropped the ball and literally left us out in the cold without even giving us some sort of estimate on time or offer of help with boarding.
 2nd of Mar, 2010 by   akhutch 0 Votes
We originally had AGWAY propane service. They installed our 500 gal. underground tank, it is green. I believe the original "Terms and Agreements" form had a clause that read, "after 5 years ownership of the tank reverts to customer." Unfortunately, I cannot find that form, but have all the other paperwork. Anyone have one of the AGWAY forms?

Suburban is now charging us way more than other local vendors. They also tried to increase our budget payments from $225 a month to $320 a month without any notice. I know they have threatened other customers with everything from holding credited funds, to requiring the customer pay for excavation of the tank, if the customer wants out of Suburban as a vendor.

Other complaints we have: automatic delivery when we are "on call" delivery; not leaving any delivery receipt (is this a way to concel the high price per gallon?)
 16th of Apr, 2010 by   Alliswronginyourworld -1 Votes
You people crack me up. First off, I am an employee of Suburban Propane for more than 10 years. I have attended many training sessions and classes on how to properly handel not only the product (Propane H3C4), but customers of your nature. I have read all the complaints listed on this page and within everyone each person writing them contradicts themselves. This industry isn't a fly by the seat of your pants business, and if you are not properly trained to do certian aspects of this profession, Suburban Propane would never want to assume the libiality of sending that person for a specific job such as a gas leak. You as the consumer should be ashamed of yourselves for not educating or just simply paying attention when your account and service was set up. As far as having a small leak, no matter the size, No leak is acceptable. I highly doubt that you went from using 1500 gallons a month to 400 gallons in 8 months due to switching companies and having them fix your leak. I too live in a small home of about 1200 sq ft. and I use it for heat and cooking. I only use 400 gallons a year.
As far as running out, I wish all you customers that think a small snow storm isn't a deturant for driving a propane truck. Sure the USPS, FEDX, and UPS were all on the road. They are not regulated by the Department of Transportation for HAZARDOUS MATERIALS. I do not haul boxes and letters or fright. Every day no matter the weather I have to worry about all the crazies driving around me on the roads. Heck I even had a woman try to bobbie trap the area around the tank with board having nails sticking up hidded under leaves.
I don't deny that form time time to time mistakes are made. Nobody is perfect. But this is one job that you pay attention to every aspect because of the dangerous nature of what your handeling.
In closing, All the companies polices and regulations are posted for all to read. Most of these stories bottom line is finanical distress on the customers part. Well tell me this... Will the grocery store or resturant let you make payments on your foods before you leave their builden? I didn't think so
 2nd of Jun, 2010 by   poconoman 0 Votes
Suburban is the WORST propane company PERIOD. They're bandits. I filed a BBB complaint too.

To anyone: Do NOT give Suburban business. Just horrible.
 11th of Jun, 2010 by   James D. Wiedman 0 Votes
Suburban is a rip-off racket. I had a Suburban tank at the brand new house when I bought it. I called them & they sent a credit app. They made me sign a agreement for a 3 year lease on the tank & they made me pay for a safety inspection. Towards the end of the second year I called to get the tank filled & when I asked what the price was they quoted $5+ a gallon. I questioned the amount & they tried to justify it. When I questioned further they backed of the price to $2+ a gallon. I told them to forget it. I called Ferrell Gas, asked for a rate on tank rental, gas ($1.60 + per gallon!) and when they could bring it out. Ferrell came out with a new tank and they would not put it in place of the Suburban tank because it was UNSAFE & did not meet code, after Suburban had charged me & supposedly had done a safety check. The Suburban tank had been placed next to our heat exchanger (6" away) and code says a minimum of 10' from the heat exchanger. I installed the black iron pipe to move it 15' away from from the heat exchanger and Ferrell filed up the now meeting code tank. I have had many conversations with Suburban about this and they hang there hat on the 3 year contract & want $167.78 for early termination! Nowhere in that Suburban contract does it say I have to let them rip me off on gas pricing! Nowhere in that Suburban contract does it say that their safety inspection will allow them to have their tank that they placed before I bought the house in a NONCODE, ILLEGAL location, after I paid Suburban for a safety inspection. Their strategy is to ruin my credit by having this go to collection and then I ultimately have to pay to staighten out my credit.
Friends don't let Friends do Suburban Propane.
 30th of Jun, 2010 by   taterh50 0 Votes
Its all about customer service and they don't have any ! Service charges to open, close accounts and charges on demerrige if you don't use enough gas (in their opinion) and we had two accounts for house and also mountain recreation trailer. The house account cost a lot less per gallon than the mountain getaway and its only about 90 miles apart. We questioned the difference and they said its a geographic thing and they don't control the other offices price settings, however when I questioned the higher price at the mountain office they magically changed there price but let me know they didn't have to. We after having auto deliver cancelled got a bill in the mountains for filling our tank in July!!! I asked why and we were told that they thought we would need a delivery. In January, which was our auto delivery month the price was down because of a warm winter so in July we received a delivery for a more expensive per gallon delivery which they made by mistake. When we called we were told they could do nothing about it so we again paid the bill. Our accounts were current and we cancelled both accounts. Our house account was closed and we were given credit at a lower than paid for price but at least we were done with that account. When we closed our mountain account we were told we would be reimbursed at the price and current price average which would have been a chunk of change. When they took the tank we were not in the mountains so we trusted them. Within 10 days we got a bill for 40.00 plus tax for a fee to close the account! This is outragous and when I called and questioned why they did not just adjust our credit they said the tank was empty according to their service. That can't be true because they filled it and we didn't use but 2 days of the furnace on. They said the pilot light uses more than we realize.( the pilot is not on I told them) to which she responded that possibly the line leaked, to which I responed that the tank valve was always off unless we were there. She said sorry but service said it was empty. I lose 75 to 100 gallons of propane reimbursement and can't prove a thing !!! She then said we were lucky because they didn't have to charge a pumpout fee. Suburban Propane will never ever have my business or get any referal for anyone I know except a very negative one !!! Why doesn't someone wise up to figure why they lose customers. We can't all be wrong.
 29th of Oct, 2010 by   trizny 0 Votes
I have had suburban for about 2 or 3 years now and nothing but problems I just went out to check tank to light furnace for the first time this year and it read 0 so after spraying tank down and confirming leak we went down and told them and waited a week nobody shows up so we call and they tell us they only check in the mornings so the only way to get someone to come up is to take a day off work to be home for them and then I'm told by thier (trained service person) lol that thier is no way that spraying water on a leak will bubble. and we will have to pay a 75 dollar leak test fee and that only test my lines not thier tank witch is where the leak is. also started looking around for other companys and found out that they are almost 2 dollars per gallon more than others they suck I will also file a complaint with BBB and also call ATT general. I really liked reading the post from the employee on here what a dumb ass I bet he is (trained in screw u over too) I'm waiting for them to come get thier tank still ill give them a week then I hook on to it with my truck and move it for them and Ohh yes I will be really gentle with it NOT.
 15th of Nov, 2010 by   Lee Murray 0 Votes
Got Suburban two years ago to heat my garage, last year they filled the 100 gallon tank it took 9 gal and they charged 112 dollars I think. This year last month they filled it and it took 7.something gal and they gave me a bill for 179.66. "minimum fill up" I called complained, called them thieves, Louise offered to cut the charge to the cost of the propane, I told her to have the tank picked up that I don't trust them anymore. They picked up the tank. I talked to Louise again, she said I'd be refunded 100 gal at 247.50. No they don't refund the unused tank rental fee, "we don't do that"... Now I get two bills one previous account bal 179.66 with current activity 108. (100. "restock" fee, 8.00 tax ) bal 287.66 the second bill account balance 287.66 minus 247.50 (my refund) account balance 40.00 that I supposedly owe. I called Louise said nothing she could do but don't pay attention just clearing the books I really should be getting a 90. refund... WHAT A FU--ING RIPOFF... So far I've posted this story on facebook to warn everybody I know, now here, and I'm writing a letter of complaint to their CEO copied to everybody I can think of, Gov of NY, Attny Gen, Senators, House of Rep, State Senators and Rep, Better Business Bureau, and anybody else I can think of. They may rip me off but I'll cause them some inconvienence at least.
Lee Murray
 22nd of Nov, 2010 by   wendy badinger 0 Votes
there is a pending lawsuite against them now..
see http://www.ag.ny.gov/media_center/2009/june/june16a_09.html
& also see
http://www.vermontfuel.com/VFDA_News_files/AG%20reaches%20settlement%20on%20tank%20removals.pdf

I am 1 of those cust who was getting rapped being charged $4.40 a gal when all other co in area at $2.50...also I found out my tans were made in 1996 & every 12yrs they are to be removed & recerified by DOT, well its 2010 & they have never been removed. They were an eye sore in frt of house all rusted. I now have gone with another co & they dont have a delvery charge like Suburban & they only charge $2.47 a gal...now i called suburban to remove tanks & was told $35 & they will charge me $2 a gal restocking fee, my tanks hold 100gal each & were filled in July. Well now that i saw the lawsuite against them they will be getting a call in am & also the atton. general office.
ALSO NOTE...Suburban told me it is a fed law now that they have to come at least 2 times a yr to fill tank...THERE IS NO SUCH LAW..
 29th of Nov, 2010 by   Grandma R 0 Votes
I have been harrassed by this company also. I requested I be put on a monthly payment plan so I could keep up on their bill, well it went from $49.00 to $59.00 now it's up to $69.00 per month. I have told them numerous times we get paid at the end of each month, once a month and could they work with us since we can't seem to change the due date. No reply, only threats that we will be taken off this payment plan if we do not pay way over the 69 dollar amount, even though we have paid it. We get our tank fill-up twice a year since the only usage is for a propane fireplace and cooking range. My records do not coinside with theirs. Wish I could switch to another company but low and behold Suburban bought out the only other propane company in our area, now giving them a monoply (and I thought there was a law about that) on propane here and surrounding areas. We live 250 miles from any other service so looks like everyone living in our town has to pay the higher price for propane from Suburban.
 24th of Feb, 2011 by   J. R. Wilson 0 Votes
One more mal-practice complaint to add: it appears there has been a class action suit filed in New Jersey on these "criminals"!!
I reside in CO and built my home 14 years ago. I had a ten year tank lease that obligated me to their price-gauging for that period of time. It was all I could do to count down to my last month of the MISTAKE I made when I signed that contract! Then last year, another regional office took over the state business and decided to screw with many old customers/old contracts. They started sending many harrassing letters about vague old contract details. Eventually, while I was out of town, they put a lock in cold weather on my UNDERGROUND tank - pipes could have been frozen but a neighbor trouble-shot the matter for me until my return. However, my cooktop HAD to be replaced because the lack gas in the line caused the pilots to malfunction...on and on in damages!
There is a place for a business run like this - GONE!
 28th of Feb, 2011 by   colo64 0 Votes
does anyone know how, or have, cut off or removed one of the propane locks that screws into the tank outlet?
 14th of Mar, 2011 by   J. R. Wilson 0 Votes
my current propane supplier says that it will be an easy fix to back the lock out of the line - BUT - I am fighting Suburban in county court and do not want to tamper with the evidence of thier unethical practice and trespassing - because legally now I own the tank!
 24th of Mar, 2011 by   Vini2kc 0 Votes
"Caveat Emptor!" this should be Suburbans' name. I applied for service and did not go through with it because it took them 1 month to set up the delivery. After I informed the salesperson that I would not be taking their service, they called the prior supplier to advice them of our intent to switch companies. Now the previous supplier threatend us with cancellation of service fees. I really don't care much for all these suppliers in this industry. Yes the gas industry itself is regulated, but all these large corporations have a setup where they license out their names to individually owned suppliers in different areas. So in essence you have all these nasty unprofessional one shop owners under a corporate umbrella but with unprofessional ethics. Just uneducated people abusing a system. But it's ok. Soon we will have better fuel choices and these companies will start to disappear.
For now, be carefull and read whatever you sign. There are still agencies that you can go to for help. Try the Consumer Protection line at the state Attorney General’s office, start there, but be ready to spend some time getting to the real agency that can help you. It's a system and we live in it.

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