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Officetronics

Posted: 2008-10-07 by Micorjones  [send email]
Officetronics Fraud on Hewlett Packard
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Officetronics
715 E Gardena Blvd
Gardena, California
United States
Phone: 888-502-0178
officetronics.com

Service from Officetronics is worse than any other company or person I have ever dealt with. First my Printer arrived 2 days late after purchasing it next day air service. Once the printer arrived the accessories inside the box looked as if they were repackaged. After setting up the printer and doing a test print we notived 12, 000 pages were already printed on this machine. It is obvious Officetronics has tried to defraud and cheat me by telling me this printer is new. The Hewlett Packard Printer looked to be in good condition but what I paid for was for a new machine. I spoke to a person at Officetronics and the woman who answered was absolutely rude and transfered the phone without even telling me. RMA department was denying how this could happen and I questioned them by saying why is the letter "R" erased from the box and the machine. He put me on hold for 5 minutes and asked me what my motives were. I told him your website advertised this machine as a new product and instead you sold me a refurbished unit with serial numbers and model numbers erased to hide the refurbished status. At that point the RMA guy just replied back by telling me we can refund your money but you need to pay for shipping. At this point now I had a firm grasp of Officetronics business model. Sales refurbished equipment as new and if a customer finds out refund his money and try to cheat a different unsuspecting customer. I did some research by typing Officetronics on the internet and found unparallel reviews about the same thing that has happened to me. Some customers were defrauded over $10, 000.00 in this same way. Many were not refunded there money if they had wired the money as requested by Officetronics. Officetronics is a scam and a fraud lets spread the word so others dont have to deal with what I had.
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 45 days ago by Marcelo C  [send email]
Dear Micorjones,

Officetronics is committed to its customer’s satisfaction and we are sorry to learn that you are unsatisfied with your purchase. We invite you to contact us immediately so that we can resolve any problems you have had with your purchase. We are committed to making your purchase with us a successful one. That is precisely why we have a 14 day return policy and we work with every customer within the period to make things right. We also help our customers after the 14 day policy with any warranty facilitations they need.

It has come to our attention that you have published your dissatisfaction on a third party website concerning our purported sale of a used product as new, which is not true. We do not sell used goods as new. If the product you purchased from us is not functioning, we invite you to contact us so that we may resolve the product issues you are experiencing. We do understand that goods sold occasionally have unforeseen manufacturer’s defects or other mechanical problems that are beyond our control. That is why we are committed to replacing products that have manufacturer’s defects or other malfunctions as well as refunding the purchase price on products that are defective.

Officetronics is confident that it can resolve your complaint quickly and efficiently with your cooperation. We remain confident that our competitive prices and customer service make us an industry leader committed to servicing your needs. Thus, we are reaching out to you Micorjones in an effort to resolve your dissatisfaction. We look forward to hearing from you and assisting you in this matter.


Sincerely,

The Officetronics Customer Service Team
 38 days ago by Lester  [send email]
DO NOT BELIEVE THIS REBUTTAL FROM OFFICETRONICS. The Owner Philip Kim is a fraud and a scam artist. BEWARE. HE IS A SHADY INDIVIDUAL. CHECK OUT THIS REVIEW THAT IS VERY DETAILED!

The Real Truth about Shopping Comparison Sites! OFFICETRONICS THE RESELLER EXPOSED AND MADE AN EXAMPLE!!!

NOTE: THIS ARTICLE I AM POSTING IS BEING REMOVED FROM EVERYSITE. I FOUND OUT THAT THESE SHOPPING SITES ARE OWNED BY BIG CORPORATIONS. HELP SPREAD THE WORD AROUND!!!

I have heard thousands of customers complain about shopping sites like - Nextag.com - Pricegrabber.com - ResellerRatings.com - CIAO.com about removing negative reviews that customers have had with the companies that they have purchased from. The truth is that most these companies such as Nextag.com / Pricegrabber.com / Resellerratings.com / CIAO.com are not consumer and safe shopping sites. They are paid per click for every time you click on one of those sellers. You are charging them anywhere between $.25-$1.25 a click whether you buy or not. This is big business for these shopping sites and if there sellers are not happy about the reviews they are receiving they will gladly remove them upon their request. I urge you shoppers to not let these big companies continue to sway customers into believing they are offering a great service and a safe place to purchase products.
The company I will give you an example about is www.officetronics.com. They are currently receiving hundreds of negative reviews on daily basis and you will see from hundreds of testimonies that this company is a fraudulent and scamming consumers and government agencies. They are selling refurbished and used products as new. One seller has even written a blog about these business practices about Officetronics. The owner of the business Philip Kim refused to do any interview with us when we asked these questions about their business practice. We have received hundreds of emails from consumers who have read my information about this company and the shopping sites that support companies like Officetronics. I will list many ways to help consumers fight back against big corporate companies that out there looking for their own good and not the good of consumer. I urge everyone to stick together in a time where fraud and scams are becoming rampant among the wealthy. People like Philip Kim / Officetronics / Nextag.com / Pricegrabber.com / Resellerratings.com / CIAO.com are not here to help consumers but to defraud consumers. Below is some detailed information about the research we have done.


How to Prevent Being Scammed from Internet Dealers: Example - www.officetronics.com (well known fruad and internet scam)

1) Don’t believe reviews from shopping sites. Example go to "Google" and search for "Officetronics" or "Officetronics scam" or "Officetronics fraud" from there we can see roughly 4000 posts about Officetronics being a scam and a fraud. These are the reviews you are going to want to see. These are consumers who have posted and went out there way to let consumers know about what is going on. Do not rely on Nextag.com / Pricegrabber.com / Resellerratings.com / CIAO.com to give you reviews that are not filtered by money grubbing executives.

2) Most companies like Officetronics are writing their own reviews. Places like Nextag.com - Pricegrabber.com - Resellerratings.com - CIAO.com are not places that offer true consumer reviews and reviews that are negative are removed while positive reviews are seldom removing written by the sellers themselves.

3) If someone is complaining about a seller such as www.officetronics.com about the same exact thing most likely they are doing a scam and are not trust worthy seller. Most these sellers will try to create other websites to mask all the negative reviews.

Example when we do a search for Officetronics on Google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=officetronics&btnG=Search

We come up with some negative reviews and some odd websites. The odd websites coming up from our Research shows Officetronics trying to mask and hide all the negative reviews that are appearing naturally on Google.

Here are the bogus websites that Officetronics is currently Optimizing to hide all those negative reviews from consumers. Be a smart consumer and don’t let companies like these take advantage of hard working consumers.

http://www.tjoos.com/Coupon/28195/Officetronics
http://www.scientific-graphing-calculator.com/
http://www.electronic-whiteboard.com/
http://www.office-paper-shredders.net/
http://www.joeant.com/DIR/info/get/5227/50993
http://www.xelizer.net/officetronics/
http://www.brother-typewriter.com/
http://www.officetronicsgov.com
http://wwwpaperfolding.com/
http://brothertypwriters.com/

4) Spread the word around about what you have seen or heard. Don’t let websites like these stop you from right to freedom of speech. If you have been cheated let others so they are not victims of fraud.


Back to Shopping Sites. Our research does show one positive website that doesn't remove negative reviews from our knowledge and research. WWW.eopinions.com / www.shopping.com / www.dealtime.com I believe are the best shopping sites around. There policy is to leave any review that consumers have had with them. These sites I do must advocate are decent and still have some good foundation for consumer advocacy against fraud. I commend these companies for their honest work and not believing in profits over the right thing to do.

As for Nextag.com / Pricegrabber.com / Resellerratings.com / Ciao.com I recommend you not to use them but if you do use them "DO NOT CLICK ON THOSE SELLERS YOU WANT TO BUY FROM!!! Just go direct to their website by typing in the domain name within your browser. This will prevent shopping sites like these to get paid on their advertisement that is precious for them to jeopardize consumer safety.
Example of the Huge Fraud at Officetronics and how thousands were scammed! And how this could have been prevented if Shopping sites had allowed users to review these sites with honesty.

THIS REVIEW CAME FROM A CUSTOMER WHO HAVE SPOKEN TO AND HAVE PHYSICAL PROOF OF FRAUD ON OFFICETRONICS. THIS CONSUMER HAS NOTIFIED THE FBI, IC3, AND ATTORNEY GENERAL. WE CAN ONLY WAIT TO SEE THE OUTCOME OF THIS COMPANY.



Officetronics is a bust of a company. Stay AWAY from Officetronics. The company will sell you anything and everything that is
either refurbished or used as new. After some tedious research found out the owner of Officetronics is Philip Kim. Sounds to me it is a Korean owner. Very Shady! Here are some breakdowns of some scams we have confirmed that Officetronics / Owner: Philip Kim is doing on the internet. Officetronics claims there products are cheaper than anyone else because they buy them at wholesale. First of all we have been in the electronics computer business for 20 years and we have been an HP Partner for 18 years. There is not wholesale prices from Hewlett Packard all products are purchased from distributors like Ingram Micro, Synnex, Techdata, Arrow Electronics and other authorized distributors. Currently Synnex is the only company selling refurbished Hewlett Packard printers and our insiders tell us they are puchasing all there Refurbished Hewlett Packard goods from Synnex Corp. They are purchasing the goods that are Factory Refurbished from Hewlett Packard and keep in mind Hewlett Packard goods that are factory refurbished come in the original box same as a new product would. What Officetronics is doing is removing the refurbished stickers off the box with a heat gun and erasing the "R" off the model numbers with an erase gun. From our extensive research and testimony's from other resellers Officetronics is clearly selling refurbished goods as new. What I can suggest is if you have purchased from Officetronics to check the serial number of the unit at the website on the bottom. When you enter the serial number it will also ask your for the model number. IMPORTANT the model numbers from Officetronics have erased the letter "R" off every printer so all you have to is is put the "R" back when you check the warranty status. Example Below.


http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/WarrantyLookup.jsp?country=&prodSeriesId=454811&prodTypeId=12454

In the serial number section make sure to put the "R" on the model number. Example

Printer HP 4250N is model number (product number) "q5401a#aba" for a new one. A Refurbished one is a "q5401aR#aba" notice how there is an "R" at then end of the actual model number. It must be before the # sign. The #ABA denotes its a US model. #201 means Goverment Model. Also you can call HP tech support at 800-474-6836 and ask Hewlett Packard how you can do a test print to show how many prints have gone through that machine. Hewlett Packard keeps records of print counts done on machines this will also help you determine if the printer was used or not. If there any page counts on the machine it means it was refurbished and repaired and not new. Refurbished Equipment are known to fail at higher rate than new products. BEWARE!!!

You will notice your product was either refurbished RMKT means refurbished by Hewlett Packard. Spread this word around the internet so others are not cheated out of there hard earned money. Officetronics is committing fraud and a scam that is hurting other dealers who are honest. The company is owned by Philip Kim and the Marketing Director: Marcelo Calcagnotto are all in on this scam. BUYERS BEWARE OFFICETRONICS IS A NO GOOD. Lots of other dealers to deal with. Officetronics is not worth the headache and nightmare.

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