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Northland Fire / Ansul R-102 Fire Extinguisher System Complaints - Go elsewhere

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Northland Fire / Ansul R-102 Fire Extinguisher System

Posted: 2008-01-12 by Jordan [send email]
Go elsewhere
Complaint Rating:  100 % with 4 votes
Company information:
Ansul Fire Protection
Edina, Minnesota
United States
www.northlandfire.com

In January of 2007, I had an Ansul system installed in the kitchen of my bar/restaurant by Northland Fire. My old dry chemical system was outdated and I was told it might not put out a fire. They never told me about the requirement about the electrical portion (exhaust, makeup-air shutdown, etc) when the system installer finished putting in the new system, he told me it was good.

Shortly after they put it in, another technician from Northland comes out to "service the system" and he red tagged it!!! He said I still needed to have the electrical hooked up. I thought that was included in the install!! So I had to spend the extra money to have that done. I already paid $3200! When I talked to the owner of Northland, the guy had the nerve to yell at me on the phone and he even swore at me!!

Another company approached me a few months later, I know the guy because he used to work for Northland and he was always fair, friendly, kept me informed and up to date on what I needed, and treated me well. I decided to use this guy for my next service, because I was unhappy with Northland. After the first time I had the new guy service my system, Northland came in and told me the guy wasn't licensed, he wasn't insured (which he showed me was false, he IS insured and the State of MN. doesn't REQUIRE a license!) They also told me I had to have my system re-serviced because this guy was not qualified. WHAT??? He used to work for Northland, but now he isn't qualified to work on Ansul?? Northland even gave me a number to call, where a guy told me that No, he isn't certified.

This technician from Northland, who I had never seen before also really badmouthed the guy from the new company I used, his new business, and even told me that the guy was a faggot!! I also found out from a few other restaurant owners that they were hearing the same things!

If this is the way that Northland Fire chooses to do business, then I would highly recommend if you need an Ansul system, or need it serviced, that you go elsewhere. This practice of badmouthing your competition, rather than improving on your own service and treatment of your customers sucks! Northland seems to think they "own" all of their customers, and can say and do whatever they feel. If the owner of the other company really is a "faggot" as I was told, so what?!?! At least he seems to care more about the customer and their needs!
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290 days ago by Anonymous Person [send email]
I completely agree. Go elsewhere. Call Nardini. JN Johnson. Fairmont. Simplex. The "license" that the guy was talking about is referring to an Ansul license (from the Ansul Co.). It is just a certification from Ansul, the mfg. of the fire system, so that if any person or business owner has another "un-licensed person" service the Ansul system that Ansul will not be held responsible for any defects or problems with the system should a fire occur and significant damage is incurred because the Ansul system did not function properly. In actuality, Northland will not make sure that any system that they service is free from defects because so many crucial system components are skipped at every 6 month service. No alarms are tripped. Gas valves are not chekced to make sure gas shuts off. Nozzles are not always checked. Caps not always replaced. Etc., etc., etc. Why? Because Northland is not in the business of making, servicing, and insuring a working fire system. No. Northland is in the business of making money. The important pieces of the system are skipped because they are time consuming. Time is money. And the more and more systems that Northland can have their technicians crank out in one day means more money for the company. They don't care about you or the system. They care about money. No matter what happens or who services your system, Northland has the blame game worked down to a science so that if the system does not extinguish a fire, THEY WILL NEVER PAY, REPAY, OR BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE! The sad truth that goes with this is that Ansul will back them to insure that they will not be held accountable. Northland is a money making machine. They charge top dollar for parts that they don't pay for. They charge anywhere from 100-500% mark-ups. You never get what you pay for. You will be treated like crap. Customer service is terrible. Employee treatment is terrible. None of the employees like their job (only because of the mgmt and owners). Northland makes their employees work on McDonald's type wages and deducts wages illegally on a whim. They have no set schedules (do you want some guy to do some highly technical job after working a 14 hour day the day before and having to get up a 3 am after being told where to go just the night before at 7pm?). They fire people like the wind changes. Morale is non-existent. Training is lackluster and lazy at best. Employees are trained to do just enough work to make Northland a ton of money in a day, and then treated like the scum of the earth before they are inevitably dismissed. Do you really want some underpaid, pissed off, undertrained, angry, disgruntled technician servicing your expensive fire system? I don't. The management at Northland is run by a group of husband-wife, friend of the family yokels who do what they want, when they want. They are used to getting their way and that is that. If you think that just being yelled and sweared at on the phone is bad (being a customer), then you should multiply that by your own social security number and you can then imagine what it is like for the employees. They are all racist (only one non-white male works for the company, yet I've heard that many minorities have applied and been denied whether qualified or not). Sexist (no women are allowed to work in the field-women have applied and tried, but Northland takes the "men only" stance). And the word "faggot" gets used liberally by the owners and managers because they feel they were "infiltrated" by the former technician you speak of (he happened to be gay and they despised it).
Take my advice-GO ELSEWHERE!! Avoid Northland Fire and Security.

A very good friend of mine was mistreated and abused by this company, and ultimately fired. How else would I know so much!
102 days ago by Gregg [send email]
As a former employee of Northland, I agree 110% that the owners and managers treat the employees like crap! If I owned a restaurant, I wouldn't want the servicing my fire equipment!
43 days ago by Terry [send email]
What about the fire that burned down the McDonalds in Big Lake, MN. a few years back? I used to work there and I heard that Northland screwed up and that was why the Ansul system didn't operate when we had a fire in the deep fat fryer. Something about a gasket or o-ring or something that didn't get put in? Good thing nobody was hurt or killed when that happened. After knowing about that, and reading the above comments, NO WAY would I trust Northland Fire to service anything!
42 days ago by Paul Jones [send email]
Hi.
I WORK WITHIN THE FIRE INDUSTRY, AND AS MY COMPANY IS LACKING ON JOBS FORMYSELF. ONE NIGHT I DECIDED TO LEND A HAND FOR, SOME KNOWLEDGE AND DOUBLE TIME PAY ON ANSUL SYSTEMS, WITH ANOTHER TRAINED EMPLOYEE.WHAT A NIGHTMARE DIRTY JOB TO DO., MY MANAGERESS EXPECTS ME TO START DOING EXTRA WORK( UNQUALIFIED) AND TO START SERVICING ON MORNING/ NIGHT SHIFTS.I TOLD HER THAT IM NOT INTERESTED IN ANSUL AND THAT WAS THAT.I THINK SOME COMPANIES ALSO JUST IN FOR THE MONEY, REGARDLESS OF LOOKING AFTER EMPLOYEES LEAVING THEM TO FEEL NIGLECTED. I WOULD AND WILL BE USING MY BRAIN NEXT TIME IM ASKED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!! PJ

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