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Music Crawler, Oklahoma Complaints & Reviews - SCAM/Fraud

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Music Crawler

Posted: 2011-05-22 by    timcha

SCAM/Fraud

Complaint Rating:  100 % with 2 votes
Contact information:
Innovative Media Solution Ltd.
Oklahoma
United States
music-crawler.com
I recently became a potential victim of a company known as music-crawler.com . The circumstances are as follows: I was looking for a way to download music ringtones to my cellphone. I performed a google search and decided to follow a link to music crawler's web site with the understanding that I could download music to my phone directly from their site. I signed up for the 3 day trial subscription and immediatelly linked to the service. Much to my dismay, I found that I COULD NOT download items to my phone (NOTE: I'm not a techy, so please ignore my ignorance); also, I was not terribly impressed with the content available from the service. I then fooled around and missed the cutoff of the 3-day trial, and was (as stated in the terms and conditions) charged $69.95 for a "lifetime membership". I was not terribly worried about this since I had read in the companies same published terms and conditions that I may cancel the contract and receive a full refund of the purchase price of $69.95 within 27 days of the conversion from trial to lifetime membership. On the fourth day, after noticing the charge on my bank statement, I immediatelly started the process of cancelling the contract (so I thought).

Upon making that decision, I tried to find the link to cancel the product...guess what...none exists...at least not on the music crawler site or interface. I then opened the email from Plimus Sales (who is apparently a billing site for numerous online companies). I followed the links from Plimus and finally found that you have to enter a "dispute" to cancel the membership, so I did just that. In the meantime, I did an online search of music crawler and saw numerous horror stories by others who beleived they were scammed by music (belly) crawler. I then modified my complaint with a demand that I receive a full refund as stated in the terms. The following is the exchange I had with music crawlers lousy excuse for customer service. Note that this is a cut/paste of the acutal dispute form itself:

Dispute Correspondence Dispute Status: Resolved

Date created (PST) User Comments

05/20/2011 11:50 Vendor Full refund ( USD 4.95 ) - Your $40 has been refunded. Please allow few days until that will appear on your bank statement. Please feel free to get in touch with me if you decide you’d like additional help.

05/20/2011 11:05 Customer Reply to the software vendor - Apparently you have not read your own printed terms and conditions. I suggest you read them as I am going to forward your response to the Oklahoma Attorney Generals office as soon as I finish this response (I am also going to immediatelly file a complaint with the BBB). Your actions constitute wire fraud. You will refund my full purchase price as the published terms and conditions explicitly state. You are attempting to change the terms and conditions post sale. That IS illegal.

05/20/2011 10:13 Vendor Resolve (without a refund) - I see that you want to get this cleared up as quickly as possible. Since you want to get this done fast, lets get to it. When you signed up, did you read Terms of Service? (You were to accept that to activate your account and get your trial.) I believe you did. And I can only suggest that you have missed the passage Payments & Membership where trial period is defined as 3 days only, during trial period you could download 5 songs within each 24 hours (max 15 songs in total). Thus, if you haven’t cancelled your 3 days trial, a full charge for the lifetime unlimited access should be taken, as far as it is presumed that you liked service and willing to continue using it. To keep your account active, we need analyze system capacity and provide a guaranteed access to remote web resources for you to get audio files, this is time and resources consuming. And that is also a part of your lifetime unlimited access charge. As far as the auto-upgrade policy is communicated to the customer in our Terms and Conditions, that you agreed to when you purchased the software, I can offer you a partial refund of $40, calculated as $69.95(unlimited lifetime access) minus $29.95 (including these transactions billing handling and its ‘ processing fees, affiliates and service maintenance fees.) Of course it is up to you what you want to do, yet you may get your partial refund for this short period of service use, or you may stay with an unlimited, as for the number of song downloads, lifetime access without any further charges at all. You have a two options that I can help you with. If you tell me which you’d prefer, I would be able to process that for you.

05/20/2011 08:39 Customer Reply to the software vendor - About & Share responsibility We do not host any audio file on our servers. Music Crawler is a desktop facility to perform search and download of the files located webwide. Downloading of any copyrighted material is strictly forbidden. Users pledge to take full responsibility of using our search tool and further use of the results obtained with our search tool. Download speed is absolutely uncapped, you are downloading at those speeds that remote webwide servers where the files have been found provide. Downloads quantity and bandwidth are unlimited as well, any user gets full granted access. Privacy Policy Music Crawler do not store any information on our members other than your e-mail address which is used to login. We do not track or collect data about users’ search and download history. Sharing your account information (e.g. e-mail, password, software download link, etc) with anyone else is strictly forbidden. If you’re caught doing so – giving it to a friend, sharing it at a public forum, etc – your account will be permanently banned. Payments & Membership Trial membership costs $4.95 and stays valid for 3 days. During trial period you can download 5 songs within each 24 hours (max 15 songs in total). After Trial period your account will automatically extend to LifeTime Membership and you will be charged for $69.95. You can prevent that easily: come to the Member Zone and click on the Cancel button anytime during your Trial period. LifeTime Membership means that youll have granted access to our service until Music-Crawler.com is working. Cancellation and refunds If you decide you do not need this service during your 3-day trial period, contact our support staff within the time limit of your trial and you will not be charged for any further account extension. If you do not cancel during your 3-day period, your account will automatically extend to LifeTime Membership and you will be charged for $69.95. Within 27 days of an account extension beyond your trial period, you may request a full refund of the $69.95 charge. Transactions beyond 27 days of an account extension beyond your trial period are considered a final sale and non-refundable. According to the above terms and conditions, I hereby demand a full refund of the purchase price of $69.95.

05/20/2011 08:34 Customer Reply to the software vendor - According to the published Innovative Media Solution Ltd. terms and conditions, I may request at my option to receive a full refund within 27 days of the conversion from trial period to lifetime membership. I have (in writing) notified you of that option, and demand that you comply as per the legally binding terms and conditions you (Innovative Media Solution Ltd.) set forth. I hereby DEMAND you provide a full refund at once.

05/20/2011 05:04 Vendor Resolve (without a refund) - Thank you for contacting us regarding your concern. Please note that this order was placed as an automatic upgrade as far as this option was enabled during your first purchase from http://www.music-crawler.com website. You have signed up for 3-day trial period during which you are to decide whether to upgrade to full unlimited access. If you dont want to, you are to write us about your decision (either using support form or support e-mail) during this 3-days trial. After that you souldnt be billed for one time fee of $69.95 for the full unlimited access. The auto-upgrade policy is communicated to the customer in our Terms and Conditions, that you agreed to when you purchased the software. To keep your account active, we need analyze system capacity and provide a guaranteed access to remote web resources for you to get audio files, this is time and resources consuming. And that is also a part of your lifetime unlimited access charge. By taking advantage of the auto-upgrade feature, you benefit from product service without interruption, you save your time and efforts by avoiding a manual upgrade and above all, you are entitled to upgrade absolutely free of charge to the upcoming versions. As your account got a full unlimited access, you will get no further charges, since its a one time payment with no additional fees per each download. We understand that running software can sometimes cause different issues, this is why our Customer Care Teams are available 24/7 for you. We will be more than willing to sort out any unpleasant situation that you are currently faced with, so please be so kind and describe what the issue is exactly in case if you have any issues.

05/19/2011 10:32 Customer Reply to the software vendor - You have 48 hours in which to issue a full refund or I will file a fraud complaint with the Oklahoma State Attorney Generals Office Consumer Protection Division.

05/19/2011 10:27 Customer Product doesn't match expectations - Not satisfied with content

Note that this is not the whole story!! After receiving the "offer" to refund the $40.00 dollars of the purchase, I found the customer service telephone number for Plimus Sales. I called and explained to their representative exactly what had transpired and that I felt that music crawler was committing fraud. She placed me on hold, and after a few minutes came back and advised me that she was issuing a FULL refund of both the lifetime membership, as well as the trial membership! I was stunned!!

I checked my bank account yesterday...and, sure enough, the charges have been credited just as she stated!

Thank you Plimus Sales, Inc. and staff for being HONEST and REPUTABLE !!
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 8th of Aug, 2011 by   Victorbxl 0 Votes
The same thing happened to me, i agreed for a 3 days time trial and paid 4, 43€ and finally found they got 64€ euros for a life time period though i didn't ask.
 8th of Aug, 2011 by   Victorbxl 0 Votes
MUSIC CRAWLER : they stole my money too
The same thing happened to me, i agreed for a 3 days time trial and paid 4, 43 euros and finally found they got 64 euros for a life time period though i didn't ask!
 30th of Aug, 2011 by   Iliff 0 Votes
i'm one of the victims too. why can this type of fraud outstandingly exist in the U.S.?
 30th of Aug, 2011 by   Iliff 0 Votes
I'm one of the victims too. Why can this cheating business exist in a country that has a moderate standard in protecting your consumers?
 1st of Nov, 2011 by   pLeeBKK 0 Votes
I just got duped. They also charged me $69.95 with the same reason. In fact, the emails they sent back had the same wordings. So they've done this a lot. Did you accept just $40 and not a full refund?
 30th of Dec, 2011 by   Victor Meyer 0 Votes
Plimus and its vendor Music Crawler – long story short - STAY AWAY!!
 24th of Feb, 2012 by   Mcoleman 0 Votes
I've had the very same experiece. No further comments, 'cause obvioulsy, they keep getting away with such unethical behavior.
 28th of May, 2012 by   oceanside555 0 Votes
I recently struck the same problem as recently as April 2012. I went to access Music Crawler server as a paid up lifetime member only to be redirected to a 'download' page asking me to pay up ... again. All attempts to contact Customer Service via their online form and using their support email address (support@music-crawler.com) to get the matter sorted out got me nowhere. Bottom line: They have my money and it's unlikely I'll get a refund (even through I have asked for one if the problem can't be resolved - which it wasn't). Even when I promised to give negative feedback about their service (if I wasn't given 'some' service), still no reply. Hence, my comments here. I urge you to give Music-Crawler.com a wide berth ... Catherine

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