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This is my story of my involvement in an immoral internet cult, which changed my life and affected everything, causing me to lose my job, my wife, my humanity, and left me deeply depressed and lost.
I registered at a site called MMA Carnivale, a site that was ostensibly about combat sports and ultimate fighting. I became friends and chatted with people on the site, and it seemed normal at first. I spent hours every day, and the leaders of this site made me feel welcome and drew me in.
Then things started strange. It started feeling like being in a cult, with pressure on members to conform and do what the leaders wanted of them. They requested your contact details, like phone numbers, Facebook, and other information, and encouraged members to reveal everything about themselves.
They also requested members "support" them with monetary donations and engaged in attacking other website, and some said they were members of Anonymous.
What really ended it for me was when I saw how the owners and admin and moderators and member body used personal information of users against them, through blackmail and coercion, and tried to exert total control of their members and brainwash them into a collective hive.
I felt my identity slipping, I had donated hundreds of dollars, spend 12 hours a day, everyday, was asked to attack other sites and shown how to hack, and when I started questioning and disagreeing, I started receiving threatening and harassing e-mails to my work e-mail and friends and family in real life were contacted and malicious stories about me spread.
I strongly urge everyone to stay away from the site MMA Carnivale, and it's sister site, MyEpicDramaSite, who are owned and directed by the same people and used to brainwash naive people. They are the classic definitions of cults, and do everything to hold people hostage and use personal information against them.
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I got charged $20 for nothing, I cancelled my add! Please refund my $20. My debit card # is [protected] ex. 01/17
Thank you
Mark Alarcon
you guise should post at bloodyfists.net
The poster JSPoole stalks a 14 year old kid at this forum, Julian is 14 years old and the Poole guy stalks him.
http://www.mma138.net/showthread.php?2912-Julian-needs-to-be-banned-for-his-own-good/page4
JSPoole is posing as all the above names because he got exposed for having sex with animals. This ### got a bad case of Dyspraxia and he needs to die.
MMA Carnivalle is the worst ###ing name in the history of internet addresses
Stu3ufc here
I want to know why MMA Carnivalle didn't accept my account when i tried to sign up. Also cameldog youre a bunch of pussies you banned me also.
You both ###ing suck! K1 Level Posters is the best of the best in posting experience. This forum is not for the glassed jawed like you lot
K1LP for life ###
Lol. Man Boobs alert.
As an ex hacker i can tell you that yes, cameldog.net does in fact hire many of us to find out all the personal info on it's members, getting their credit card info, ect. to fund the site. That being said, I was hired By Sheihk Zubber of cameldog.net to attack myepicdramasite.com but to my surprise i was counter hacked by a master hacker that goes by the name of Tbone. Tbone the masterhacker used a reverse shell to completely steal all the info off my hard drive then wiped it clean. He then published the info in a pastebin post exposing all the hacking i had done for cameldog in the name of Milos, Kamran and Sheihk Zubber.
I knew i had been out done so i congratulated Tbone the master hacker and signed up and starting posting at myepicdramasite.com. They are actually a very nice bunch and not a creepy cult like those of cameldog. They do not try to gather info on their members but instead they protect their members from other attackers and internet creepers like Mike Kennedy of Big Stone Gap. They are not hackers for hire, but if you mess with anyone from myepicdramasite.com they retaliate and wage internet war.
If you want a quality forum to post at and know that you are protected from creepers and hackers then i suggest you sign up at www.myepicdramasite.com and enjoy the fun.
Lol. Complainers can't handle my awesomeness. I retired you all. VIP NAO!
This site sucks. I should be mod here.
YOu see, this is the sort of thing that goes on. Milos is a loser who doesn't understand awesomeness, like I do.
Hang on, just checked my calender and it's an "I Like Milos" day today, so I should really make a philosophical, yet unreadable comment to explain his action.
first off, I would like to state that as a moderator from cameldog, I can tell you for certain that this is all ### that borders on liable.
I have posted pictures of other members children and made lude sexual remarks, and I have told another poster that I wished his wifes cancer came out of remission and aggressively attacked her insides, and I have posted numerous members full names and addresses but I only did this because they were dicks.
there is no reason why anyone who is an aggressive, over the top, shogun fan should be worried about me having access to their IP address.
honestly, the only thing that REALLY pisses me off is when people disagree with me on a forum that I am moderating.
if you plan on disagreeing with me, or responding in any way to my ruthless barrage of badgering, vile insults, then you are pretty much asking for me to post your home address on 4 chan and claim that you touch children.
As a social experiment, I have been posting at the sites in question non stop for the past 36 hours (except MEDS as even though I am unbannable, I am banned from the creek, but I have lurked). At Carnivale I read informative and interesting articles and opinions from a number of members who were able to disagree without arguement, even when I posted my internet-famous war cry COME AT ME BRO (which they wouldn't as I have 24 inch pythons). At CamelDog, I just ended up feeling sorry for a guy called TigerKneeCrush who was crying about being bullied, although I will protect him because I am awesome.
LOL the site is a week old you ###
I am a member of all sites mentioned and I can tell you that it is only after I have posted at cameldog do I get the feeling I have been raped by dirty arabs.
I am a mod at Cameldog. The 40 year old man who made these statements about us is obviously a fat ugly loser who is jealous of us because he is so fat, poor, and ugly. I am a proud Persian warrior and I will fight till the death to defend my emperor Sheikh Zubeer (Allah be with him). If you really think we would use the social security numbers and private information we've obtained on our members, then you are a subhuman, ugly, poor, pathetic, loser. And you're fat too.
This is nothing but manufactured drama made up by ugly Jews and subhuman non-whites designed to make the white, Persian, master race of cameldog posters look bad. I have been a seventeen year old high school student for six years now and I am smarter than these 40 year old losers who know nothing about their own culture. Allah akbar and glory be to the prophet Muhammed, may Jesus have mercy on his soul. Long live Sheikh Zubeer!
Reading through some of these comments, it is clear that people think this situation is somehow amusing. I was banned from CamelDog for attempting to coerce people into joining another forum, as I felt CamelDog was a bad place to be. However, over a period of time I was contacted by Mr Zubeer, the leader of the forum and promised much if I returned, but promised to denounce all other forums, which I've now done. I have even partially abandoned my christian beliefs, as I have now seen the light, thanks to the Muslim moderating team. I have been given all the aesthetics a moderator needs, but none of the actual powers, but hopefully His Majestic Eminence Mr Zubeer will grant me those powers soon, and my enemies will be mad. They are already jelly of my 56 inch pythons. COME AT ME, BRO!
Only total ### request DOX from their members and threaten them with it. It's no wonder THE OMEN continues to post at cameldog.
as the owner, founder, and genius behind cameldog, I must say that these accusations against my orgonization are preposterous and down right fraudulent.
it sickens me that some people will abuse their freedom of speech like this.
true, we here at cameldog have acquired quite the library of social security numbers, credit card information, mothers maiden names etc. but this is NOT used for any scandalous endeavors.
dont believe me? well, I promise you that this is true, and if my word isnt good then the internet isnt good.
and what do you all have against the internet anyways?
I run a site based ENTIRELY on freedom of speech.
EVERYONE, regardless of race, religion, or creed, have the freedom to say ANYTHING that I agree with.
for example, a quality poster who goes by the name of "squiggles" recently made a series of quality threads with titles such as "reasons why we should kill all the jews" and "burn israel burn" and he had the freedom to do so at MY site.
obviously there have to be SOME limitations... for example, we dont allow people to post the name "vic" because I dont like a guy named vic... and the damage caused by posting the name "vic" is something that any reasonable human being would want to prevent.
but harmless "ribbing" like "jews deserved to be holocausted" and "september 11th was the jews" and "for sale, 3 WW2 "leather" lamp shades" are STRONGLY defended because I am a strong freedom of speech advocate.
so come enjoy your posting experience and cameldog, you will love it.
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unless you are a jew.
I must post
I am also a member of all 3 sites, and find that it is actually the CamelDog site which displays the behaviour which would best be described as "cultish". As current (although now former) members have opted to begin their own forums, and various CamelDog members have opted to join these new forums, the existing admin and moderation team at CamelDog have been offering VIP accounts to entice departing members to return, have banned all mention of theses alleged "cult sites" and have threatened to somehow prevent their "enemies" from operating.
It should be noted that whilst the "cultish" sites do often reference CamelDog, this is just in the form of discussion, as the majority of the members at these sites are former members of CamelDog who are disillusioned with the site, due to certain members of the moderating team threatening to release personal information that they have access to as a privilege of their position. There have also been many references to various members personal lives, including one moderator known as Milos, publically stating that he wished for the wife of a fellow moderators wife to slowly die of cancer that she is currently suffering withmin front of his eyes, purely because he had made decisions that Milos did not agree with.
I am currently an active member of all three of these sites and therefore feel that I can provide a degree of insight that most cannot.
it is true that www.cameldog.net is an active personal info fishing site. the moderators there employ a samll, to moderate army of, what we in the biz refer to as "cyber terrorists". one of these "cyber assassins" goes by the screen name "timestamp" and WAS a brave soldier until he suffered a serious head injury and is now nothing more than a swarthy loose cannon, a renegade who plays by no ones rules. not even his own.
that being said, most of the posters at www.myepicdramasite.net and www.mmacarnivale.com/forum are EX cameldog posters and many of them are infact ex renegade hackers who have all consistently "done work" for any of the three moderators from the afformentioned sites (sheikh, JDT, and jimmyjames)
as a personal reccomendation I would have to say that it is important that you know what your getting into when you visit any of these sites.
the problem here is that alot of guppys wade into the "deep end" of the internet JSPoole thinking they can swim with the aardvarks. but the sad reality is that there are predators out there, most of whom I assume are also active registered sexual predators (like kamran) sure, there are still a couple of us cyber heros around who show up, poop in the JSPoole, and move on in hopes that the man eating sharkodiles will leave the guppies alone, but this is not always effective.
so in closing, IF you register at ANY of these three sites it is HIGHLY recommended that you keep your eyes open. do NOT use your full name and date of birth as your screen name, do NOT post in the "post your social insurance number" threads, and most importantly, do NOT call anyone out, because rule one at these sites, you call some one out, you go to them.
sincerely.
adam samuelson
1764 lakeview road,
vernon british columbia.
I will comment.
It's been a site for a week Kamran/Sheikh/or Milos.
Here's the thing. The person who posted this is from another site named www.cameldog.net.
The moderators on that site were caught employing hackers to collect the personal information of the members, including social security numbers. So, naturally, some members left and started their own site to post mma views (since cameldog is more about sucking up to the admin then actual mma). Anyway, the owner and guys who suck up to the admin on cameldog are very upset about this because they lost about 90 percent of their member base and are now creating multiple accounts to mimic activity when there is none. If you would like the screencaps to prove the statements I made I can provide them, but the creator of this page can not prove any part of what they said because the owner is a liar and is just out to get you.
I am a member of www.mmacarnivale.com/forums and today was spent banning the same cameldog user 15 times because none of them have anything better to do than harass us, they have been lurking on the site 24 hours a day (literally) until we found out a way to stop it. These cameldog members are weird and you should avoid their site at all costs. If you are interested in an mma forum, www.mmacarnivale.com/forums and www.mma138.net both offer an actual mma posting experience, both of the owners are good people, and you will not be in danger of giving up your personal identity.
Thank you.
Smear campaign over Sheikh, Kamran, or Milos...
Get a life.