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Lazy Day Doodles review: unethical behaviour of a dog breeder 4

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October 2015. I contacted this business about puppies they had available for sale. During contact with this breeder I asked questions relating to the condition and health of the puppies. I stressed that a healthy puppy was what was important to me (in response to questions from the breeder about what gender I wanted and/or what I wanted the puppy to look like). At some point the breeder communicated that the puppy had been given the traditional 6 week shots and also something for coccidia and giardia. The impression given was that these conditions were treated prophylactic measure like all the other shots. The breeder told me how much to feed the puppy and gave me a bag of food (colored puppy chow). We fed the puppy as directed but the puppy appeared to be voraciously hungry. We increased his feed to find his satiation point but he always seemed hungry. The first week we had him he ate a sock (this is a tiny little puppy! Thank goodness my daughter saw him eat it.). We rushed him to our vet (an emergency visit was required). The vet was able to treat our puppy and he eventually threw up the sock (such a relief). On examination our vet said the puppy had a bloated stomach but was ribby - a sign that he was probably wormy. She asked about his health history. I told her that the puppy had been given meds for coccidia and giardia in addition to the normal 6 week puppy shots. The vet was concerned about the coccidia and giardia treatment. I explained that I understood the breeder just did this as a prophylactic measure. My vet was skeptical and said that she would never treat a dog for these conditions unless they had the condition. The vet told me she wanted me to collect a stool sample and bring it in for evaluation. I contacted the breeder and asked again if the puppy had either coccidia and/or giardia because my vet was concerned. She said, again, that she did this preventatively not because my puppy had either of the diseases. The vet wanted to evaluate a stool sample anyway. Upon examination she found hook worm (which is not found in our area) and coccidia (which is not common in our area, either) and required treatment; and that it might require multiple rounds of treatment because these conditions are sometimes difficult. She said that humans can contract hookworm so we should be very careful about our daughter's contact with his feces (I.e. she was not to pick anything up from the yard, etc.). She also advised we needed to be careful with other animals having access to any of the feces of our puppy. Reading up on coccidia online I learned it is advisable to contact the breeder to let the breeder know. I contacted the breeder to let her know the diagnosis and to suggest she may want to contact the other folks who had purchased puppies from her ($1200 / puppy) to let them know (there were, from what I understood, 3 litters of puppies that overlapped at her facility - a total of at least 30 puppies). I also told her I was disappointed because I had told her a healthy dog was my top priority. Instead of acting on the information the breeder responded that I was being rude and nasty, that our puppy did not contract the diseases at her facility and asserted he must have gotten it at our house. She suggested that we could return the puppy if we were unhappy. We have 3 cats and another dog - none of which have ever had worms or any other parasitic diseases. But, none-the-less, being responsible I contacted our vet to ask about the possibility our new puppy had picked up the parasites since he had come home because, if so, we definitely wanted to isolate the source and have our other animals checked. Our vet assured us that our puppy had not contracted the disease since returning home with us. . . these are not conditions common to our location, the condition of the puppy (being so ribby and bloated) would not have developed so quickly, and, she said, the fact that the breeder had treated the puppy for these conditions was indicative that she had a problem at her facility. The breeder continued to assert that she was not at fault and demanded the name and number of my vet so she "could ask her some questions". I declined to provide that information but did ask if she would provide me with the name and phone number of her vet so I could ask him or her some questions about her operation and health of her puppies. She declined to provide that information. It is likely I might not have purchased this puppy had I known it was ill (if you pay $1100 for a dog you expect it to be healthy!) but if I had purchased it knowing its condition at least I could have and would have taken him straight to the vet for evaluation and proper treatment. From what I read, coccidia can be quite serious for puppies so I am stunned the breeder would not notify other new owners to let them know at least that their puppy was at risk. This breeder did not have proper health testing done on the parents of the puppies (no hip or eye checks, etc.). She said the mother went into heat before she was old enough to complete the testing (which I have since learned is not a good sign). She cannot and has not provide papers on the parents even though I have asked. Of course we do not want to return our puppy! He was loved immediately and once a part of the family is a part of the family. I am hugely disappointed, however, in the standards of this facility and, since the breeder will not, to warn other potential purchasers.

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dacvs
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Mar 22, 2024 8:43 pm EDT
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Speaking as a DVM, you're a backyard breeding huckster breeding these disgusting mutts for profit.

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Racene
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Dec 20, 2015 4:33 pm EST
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After personally receiving a very negative, completely untruthful review on this site, I felt compelled to browse through other complaints to see what other issues buyers/breeders may have.

Upon reading through this complaint, I have to defend the breeder. Every puppy is born with internal parasites (worms). I personally follow a very strict protocol of de-worming at ages 2, 4, 6 & 8 weeks of age to try to ensure that the puppies will be going home parasite free. This however is not always the outcome.

If I allow my puppies to have a 'fun', enjoyable, interactive upbringing to expose new stimuli to produce a mentally healthy, well rounded puppy, they unfortunately occasionally become exposed to parasites. Yes, if I keep my puppies under 'quarantine', not allowing outside stimuli, interaction with new environments and different animals, I will most likely be successful in raising a puppy that is free of all internal parasites. Is this puppy mentally healthy and able to interact normally if kept in quarantine to prevent parasites? Absolutely not.

The fact that the breeder had treated for coccidia and giardia indicates that he/she is in fact a responsible breeder, unfortunately these parasites are in our day to day environment. Someone takes their dog for a walk. The dog (carries giardia or coccidia) poops in a puddle. You walk by, your dog decides to have a drink out of the puddle. Guess what...they now have ingested the parasite. Mice and other rodents can very well be carriers. Mom dog catches a mouse (my dogs occasionally enjoy mouse hunting). Mom eats the mouse, goes back to her puppies and vomits the mouse up for the puppies to eat. No, this is not an ideal situation, however anyone that has raised a litter of puppies knows all too well how fast it can happen. If mom is not able to produce enough milk (or is wanting to wean her puppies), they will eat too much, later on vomit it up for their little ones. I do try to prevent this, however again, feel the that the mental wellness of my dog is by far more important than preventing an occasional parasite that is easily eliminated. Once mentally the dog becomes repressed, it will take far longer to help them back on track.

Furthermore, upon reading this complaint, it is very obvious that the buyer clearly doesn't have a clue what she is talking about. She refers to coccidia and giardia as 'diseases' several times. They are parasites. They are not diseases. If her vet had been a little less opinionated, he/she would have suggested that a quick treatment will take care of the issue. It has been personally recommended to me (by 3 different vets that were asked) that if I am aware that coccidia is in fact an issue in my area, treat the puppies routinely with a 'preventative' treatment prior to moving to their new home. It is the buyers' vets' opinion that she would not treat for an ailment without knowing that the ailment is. From a breeders standpoint, I would much rather treat with a preventative solution than wait for a puppy to become ill.

What is the buyer trying to hide by not providing her vet information to the breeder? Personally, I would like to talk to the vet, see what (in their opinion) they would suggest to do in this situation, how to prevent it for future litters.

The buyer suggests that none of her existing pets (cats & a dog) have never had parasites. Do they live in a bubble? Perhaps 100% of the time indoor pets? If you allow your pet a fun, adventurous quality of life, they unfortunately will have many opportunities to come into contact with worms and other parasites. The buyer should not be patting herself on the back over this.

And finally, the indication that the breeder had 3 litters overlapping at the same time in her kennel. Does the buyer have any idea how a dogs' heat cycle works? I viewed the breeders website, it looks like they have 5 (or maybe 6, one has a unisex name) females. Since they all reside together, they will all cycle at the same time. And yes, you then have 2 or 3, maybe 4 litters at the same time. What the buyer does not indicate is that the breeder probably goes through 4 or 5 months of having no puppies at all. I find it beneficial (for the dogs, and myself) to allow at least 2 litters at once, if one mom is unable to provide (or doesn't want her pups), another mom that has pups about the same age often times is happy to step in and act as a surrogate mom.

To sum things up, as previously noted, this buyer clearly has no idea what she is talking about. Kudos to the breeder for taking the appropriate measures required to ensure a mentally healthy, happy, well rounded puppy. If they kept the puppy in isolation to prevent these very easily treatable issues, the buyers would have ended up with a puppy that without parasites, however would also have a mentally dysfunctional, potentially hard to train, unhappy puppy that would easily become reactive to new situations.

Racene Eidick
Ravine acres Miniature Australian Shepherds
www.ravineacresminiaussies.com

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Lazydaydoodles
, US
Dec 04, 2015 8:36 pm EST

To whomever is reading this complaint. Please know that there are always two sides to every story. I tried very hard to work with this particular person who bought one of our puppies. She refused to speak with me on the phone, or work with me in any way. When I asked to speak with her vet so that I could fully understand what was going on with her puppy, she sent me a very abrupt and rude text at midnight telling me that it was completely inappropriate, which made no sense to me. Then I offered to help pay for vet bills if she would send me a copy. I haven't heard from her since. I did contact other people to let them know about the possibility of coccidia and worms. No one else had any problems with their puppies. We also kept a puppy from one of the litters and she never had any problems as well. Which really makes me wonder if there was ever a problem with her puppy, because if her puppy got those things here, other puppies would have too. I wish her and her family well and hope that they are enjoying their puppy.
I love what I do. I love helping people find the perfect puppy for the family. I do my very best to ensure they leave here healthy and happy. I cannot control everything, only do my best. We welcome everyone out to see our dogs and puppies and enjoying getting to know the people who are taking our puppies in to their homes and family.
Lazydaydoodles!

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dacvs
, US
Mar 22, 2024 8:45 pm EDT
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If everything you stated was truthful, you'd be breeding purebreds, not mutts who are nothing more than homely cash cows.