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Kohl's Complaints - Rude employees and unwritten policy!

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Kohl's

Posted: 2008-03-22 by Matthew Schumacher  [send email]
Rude employees and unwritten policy!
Complaint Rating:  88 % with 8 votes
Company information:
Kohl's
United States
Phone: 615-826-2048

My wife and I go to Kohl's weekly to shop for clothes for her. She has spent thousands of dollars in this particular store in Hendersonville, TN. Today we went in as usual browsing clothes, and when she had picked out enough we made our way to the fitting room. We are nearly 30 and have been married for 3 years. She has always taken me in with her to comment on how the clothes fit and if she should buy or not. We have never had a problem doing this before, and there are NO signs posted stating that a man is not allowed to go in to the dressing room with his wife to give her opinions on her clothes. The main reason she takes me in is because she wants to save herself the embarrassment of having to walk out and show me in front of everybody if the clothes don't flatter her.

Well today like any other time, we go into the fitting room and she starts to try on the clothes. The only signs that I see on the wall say "5 items or less in the fitting room at one time", and a sign to the effect that the dressing rooms are monitored, so don't try to steal anything. NOTHING about men not being allowed inside the rooms.

Suddenly a terrible bang comes from outside and a woman starts yelling, yes YELLING about how I am NOT allowed in the rooms, that they are for woman only and I need to get out immediately, and how I should be ashamed of myself. I stated I was not aware of that policy and left the room, having to traverse the eyes of the bystanders that heard her outburst, and now think that I've done some 'lude' act in the dressing room with a girl. On top of this, my wife then has to go through the embarrassment of bringing every outfit out to show me, instead of being able to show me in the 'privacy' of the dressing room.

As I stood outside the dressing room, I started to become angry because I realized that NOWHERE did it state that I couldn't go in. It was as if I should magically have had this innate sense of etiquette that tells me that a man is not allowed to accompany his wife anywhere there are other women locked in rooms, whom I can't see trying on clothes. RIDICULOUS.

As the woman walked by I read her nametag. Kathleen. I was very polite to her. I said "Ma'am, I don't understand why I was asked to leave the dressing room?"

She began to make points that didn't add up.

1 - She stated that this fitting area was in the woman's clothing area and was therefore naturally intended for woman ONLY.

My problem with this. the sign says "For your convenience - FITTING ROOM". NOTHING about 'Female only' fitting room, 'Non-Male' fitting room...

I stated that we were a married couple for 3 years and were grown adults of 30 years. We had no intentions of any wrong-doing, and that I thought that she had been extremely rude and obnoxiously loud when we had done nothing wrong.

2 - She stated that it was a store policy and that all customers were required to follow it.

My response...WHERE IS IT WRITTEN? Where is it so that I know that? I would have no problem following a store policy if I know it exists.

Her response was that if I am a grown 30 yr old, I should know better! hmmpf.

So I asked to speak to her manager.

She gets on the phone and no doubt tells the manager her side of the story which I'm sure was twisted in her favor.

The manager comes over (not wearing a nametag; AMAZING) and proceeded to be as rude if not more rude than Kathleen. Stating that I should KNOW that I am not allowed in those dressing rooms.

I told her I wanted to see it in writing. If it is a store policy, than it must be in writing SOMEWHERE.

Her response - I don't have time to show you.

My response - well, we don't have time to buy these $300 worth of clothes.

Her response - I don't really care.

So there you have it...I would say this incident qualifies as discrimination when I am not allowed someplace when there are no signs posted saying I can't enter, especially when I am with my wife.

I will also be sending this to Kohl's headquarters in hopes they will at least take action to make sure this kind of incident doesn't happen again by posting signs and hopefully taking action against the parties involved that were extremely rude and hurtful to me and my wife.
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 588 days ago by Jkp7462  [send email] 0 Votes
I find this complaint interesting for a couple of reasons. First, I think that both employees probably did handle the situation wrong. However, did you ever thinkr beyond the "embarrassement" of your wife? What about the "bystanders" who could have been offended by going into a fitting room with a male in the same room? These fitting rooms are, as you point out, PRIVATE! Women, and maybe more importantly, MEN, do not want you seeing or walking in while someone is looking at their potential purchases. As I am sure you noticed, there are 3 sided mirrors in most fitting rooms...do you think they are there to make the rooms look bigger? Common, think of more than just yourself!
 581 days ago by Schroeea  [send email] 0 Votes
Surprisingly not allowing the opposite sex into a fitting room applies to every store nationwide even though it is not written everywhere. it's the same idea that guys aren't allowed into women's restroom..there are no signs saying no men/women allowed because it's technically common sense. the fitting room in department stores is limited to the gender of the department (misses dept is for women, mens dept is for men) you are in, which is why there are no in between fitting rooms or if there are there is a clear men and women side.
 495 days ago by Dan  [send email] 0 Votes
What a complete idiot!

Men don't belong in women's dressing rooms no more than they do women's public rest rooms! He is lucky he didn't go to jail for Disorderly Conduct or Disturbing the Peace. Furthermore after he was told to leave the dressing room and he argued about it, Trespassing after Notice might have been applied.

My question to the complainer?

Dude, are you stupid or something?

DAN
 468 days ago by Michele  [send email] 0 Votes
You are right, there are no signs showing mens or womens fitting room, or that only one gender should be in fitting room. Have you stopped to think about other men going into fitting rooms with their wives? Would you mind other men being in there when you wife is but for some reason you are not? My husband is 6' 6" tall. How tall are the walls of the fitting rooms? Going on your idea, no sign everyone welcome, trying on bras might become a peep show. Its bad enough when there are children in with their mothers and they are crawling around her room and you hear her say "DON'T LOOK UNDER THERE!!!" I am sure you are not peeking but with soceity today women can never tell what the "man just helping his wife" is really up to. My suggestion, pick out everything she wants to try on, buy it, take it home, have a fashion show, then return what is not flattering on here. Yes, the employees handled this very badly.
 415 days ago by Shopper  [send email] 0 Votes
Common sense and decency dicate the appropriate behavior in this case. It was the women's dresssing room and you are not a woman, right? You do not belong there. Further if your wife is embarassed to show unflattering clothes in front of everybody, imagine how the other women in the dressing room feel when they are forced to show off their choices in front of you. Why are you forcing yourself into this situation. Surely you've ntoiced their is typically one big mirror and it is hung in the common area, where you are hanging out. Consider the good of the whole vs. the good of the individual. You are offending other customers just because your wife has some insecurities. The other female customers who in total spend more than you do, have their liberty compromised with your presence as they are unable to freely roam and examine themselvers in the WOMEN'S Fitting room when you are they.

I'd also question that if your wife already thinks the cltoher are unflattering, why is she showing them to you at all and why would she consider buying them?

Buying clothes is a comparitively simple decsion. Does your wife bring you to job interviews? To work? To buy food? Gas? If your opionion and privacy are so critical and your wife cannot make these decisions on her own, why not buy the clothes and have her try them at home? If you veto her choices, they can be returned.
 367 days ago by Lisa  [send email] 0 Votes
As a woman, I would have been furious if you were in the dressing rooms. Commen sense (of which you apparently have none) dicate that men should NOT be in the female dressing room areas. Kohl's would have been more liable if they allowed you to do that and then fielded dozens of complaints about it at their corporate headquarters. In fact, they probably would have had a class action lawsuit. God knows what you were doing in those rooms and if your poor wife couldn't walk out to show you, then she should have purchased the items, brought them home and RETURNED what she didn't want. Both of you apparently have very poor judgement and Kohl's wins on this one.
 293 days ago by   billyboy 0 Votes
This guys is a complete idiot!! Stay out of the women's fitting room moron!
 270 days ago by   rhino 0 Votes
you people are all crazy. is it common for women to try on bras not in the fitting room itself? there's closed off fitting rooms, it's not just a whole big room where all the women change together and this dude went in. he's not going to see any of the other women. this guy is right. a women's bathroom is marked. if there wasn't a woman on the door of the bathroom how would you know? this happened to me with my 8 year old daughter this weekend. so not only did i look creepy, but i looked creepy in front of my little girl. if you're filing a discrimination suit, let's make it a class action.
 49 days ago by   hkohls 0 Votes
ahh i spend thousands of dollars remark ive heard so often!!!who cares how much money you spend there..it doesnt allow you to do what ever you want!!!stay out of dressing room its uncomfortable for other women!!!
 13 days ago by   tigger2512 0 Votes
You really are nuts! You should consider yourself lucky i wasn't one of the women in that dressing room that day.
If they were meant to be unisex dressing rooms there wouldn't be a separate womens or mens in the first place.
AND if you think you are right..you should get yourself some serious help because there is seriously something wrong with you.
You're wife can't be that insecure about how she looks..she was out in the first place.

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