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Greyhound Canada Complaints - Driver resigns

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Greyhound Canada

Posted: 2008-06-22 by Steve Zimmerman [send email]
Driver resigns
Complaint Rating:  100 % with 6 votes
Company information:
Greyhound Canada
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
www.greyhound.ca

I understand peoples frustration with this company and submit here my letter of resignation so people will understand that the staff are as frustrated as the public. I post it here as actual company contacts are limited to what can be found on the website.

To Whom It May Concern:

My name is Steve Zimmerman, employee #6353 out of the Edmonton division. I hit the board on March 15th 2008 & pulled my last trip on Saturday, June 21st, schedule # 105 Edmonton to Fort McMurray, after which I resigned to dispatch & cushioned home. I might have handed my resignation to someone in management had I known who was in charge of Edmonton but in three months time, that was never made clear to me. Let me start by saying your company is quite possibly the worst run national brand ever. What was once a national symbol of pride is now an industry joke; what was once the standard for ground transportation in this country is now the people's last choice. Fortunately for you, customers will always be available to you as is evident by the number of crackheads who rely on your spotty service, perhaps just airbrush a glass pipe in the mouth of the dog & a whole new revenue stream may open up to you.

What has gone wrong? depleted fleet, lack of direction, the worst people skills of any industry, low pay, convoluted log book input requirements, lack of company input & resources, misguided attempts at "safety management" no visible signs of a company commitment to improve things, no local management, lowest paid mechanics in the industry, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Six grounded G-model buses here in Edmonton due to stress fractures in the motor mounts, where is the genius who decided Mexican built buses would be good for Canadian roads & winters? Promoted no doubt. Where's the accountability? Who is going to "man up" & run this once proud company efficiently? Certainly not your people. I realize you don't want to hear from people like me & that Greyhound is no place for strong minded individuals, you require ass kissing yes men who never question & who pass the buck when pressed. You have hundreds of years of driving experience in your Edmonton depot alone, yet not one driver sits upstairs! You should have 3 driver liaisons at least, they would know & understand what drivers go through on a regular basis, not these empty headed college drop outs who don't have the skills or the courage to look a man in the eye & deal with a situation.

Wanna fix it? Open your wallet, enlarge your fleet, fumigate the office of bad management, promote from within, treat drivers & staff with dignity & respect, fill your garage with the best in the business & pay them as such and stop wasting time with B.S. memo's and edicts about reverse parking, safety vests and other time wasters which treat the drivers like six year olds. We back 45-ft coaches with trailers attached around corners in driving snow, just because a Dallas executive wiped out his BMW after a 6 martini lunch trying to back out of a sunny parking lot is no reason to treat us like children.

I don't expect any reply from you as there is no evidence of anyone with any intestinal fortitude or courage involved with this company. Just continue with your collective heads in the sand(and for many of you, up your ass) & hope someone else pays for your incompetence.
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87 days ago by James O'mally [send email]
Mr. Zimmerman: you are a whinny-type personality. I have come across people like you who think they know everything and that everything could be easily solved if someone like you were in charge. There is a reason you do not make it into the ranks of management - your attitude. I do not work in the bus indusrty, I run a small profitable trucking company in Ontario.

Of course I may be wrong in my observations of you however it is unlikely. Who resigns to a dispatcher? a complainer thats who, someone who can't substantiate thier claims and accusations. I am guessing that Greybound is glad to be rid of you.

I do know athing or two about trucks and buses, your claim of "Mexicam Made" buses: educate yourself, MCI is a world leader and they manufacture in Canada, USA and Mexico - in fact thier buses are designed for Canada which is why they are so durable.

You should act like a man and stop complaining. Your wife, co-workers and employer will thank you for it and maybe even have more respect for you.
79 days ago by Laurence Greene [send email]
Nice one Steve!
After 3 months on the board you know everything?
Highly unlikely.
Wow! I can't believe it. You whine worse than a two year old.
You might have some credibility had you waited and watched and listened for, let's say ten or twenty years.
You did offer to reimburse Greyhound for their wasted time training you didn't you? Or did you just train with the best in the business and come to your own conclusions?
3 Months, it's just so hard to believe you acquired a lifetime of info on a respectable company in just 3 months.

My name is Laurence Greene. I'm a Greyhound Coach Operator from Winnipeg, Mb..
I have been driving professionally since I was 19 years old. I have driven Taxi, Limo, delivery trucks, courier, short and long haul transports, and buses. I have 35 years professional experience driving. I also have Security supervisory experience acquired at the Winnipeg terminal, so you see I might have some idea of what I'm writing about.

So, let's get this right:
You have Greyhound train you at no cost to you (they even give you a training allowance).
You operate a coach for only 3 months and at the same time, research Greyhound's past, present, and future, in your spare time (which you didn't have a whole lot of unless you booked off often), you have or gain an incredible amount of knowledge on heavy duty mechanics and become a highway coach guru.
You complain about pretty much everything, so what was so appealing about going to work for Greyhound in the first place? By that, I mean, when you applied, or did Greyhound come knocking on your door because you were so very valuable to them?

I'll tell you a secret:
The six grounded G-model coaches with stress fractures were grounded due to safety concerns and Greyhound's mechanics caught that in regular safety inspections.
The reverse parking and high visibility vests promote a safe environment.
The clientele are people too and are under The Charter of Rights, which means they can't be refused service unless they cause a problem. Which does happen from time to time and the staff deal with the problem as best as they can, security and/or police are called from time to time.

Safety and security go hand in hand and are NOT without cost. So you see, Greyhound has "opened their wallets" before you even hit the board, and certainly "opened their wallets" to you in paying for your training and possibly license upgrade.

Obviously you don't have "any intestinal fortitude or courage", or you might have stuck it out longer than 3 months. You probably didn't even talk to your union rep or management, or you would have known who to hand your resignation to.

I believe that you have no respect for anyone, Greyhound, the drivers, the mechanics, the management, the clientele, or the profession in general, and no respect for yourself, or you would not be disrespecting those who have trained you and those who put the food in your mouth. That said, maybe you and Greyhound are better off without you in the ranks.

You might have had practical experienced in professional driving and management, but all I see is a whiner.

Regards,
Laurence Greene
3rd year with Greyhound Canada, and loving it.
61 days ago by Laurence Greene [send email]
Reply to email received:
Quote: "E-Mail from "Steve Zimmerman" to "Laurence Greene" (www.complaintsboard.com)
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Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:33:54 -0700
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Hey Larry, thanks for your comments, I'm sure you've heard opinions are like assholes; everybody has one, yours just seem to be connected. I expressed my complaints at a forum which allowed me to do just that, the "complaints board" hence your vein of thinking is that every writer here can be considered a whiner, but pigeons like you are so easy to shoot down, let me go over it point by point;

1) 10 or 20 years? how long are you going to be a doormat larry?

2) offer reimbursment? They save a ton of money on "yes men" like you larry who question nothing.

3) They did come knocking on my door; as you know, they are desperately short of drivers here in Albeta & have been augmenting with drivers from B.C. & Sask.

4) Those buses were grounded by DOT officials who spent 2 days in June at the Edmonton garage inspecting buses & driver logs.

5) the "clientele" are pieces of shit as was evident by last wednesday's actions. So my assessment was spot on while your "security expierience" did not allow you to see the writing on the wall.

6) I don't hide behind the skirts of a pathetically ineffective union. My rep had his chance & did nothing. unions are for the weak of mind & spirit. Stand up for yourself Larry!

7) the only person who puts food in my mouth is me. I simply decide who I'll work for, how & when. it's the Alberta advantage... it's worked out pretty well too, 3 cars, a harley, a million dollar home & a place in Osoyoos B.C.

8) you are almost right about one thing Larry, it's just that you got it backwards; I'm better off without Greyhound; but then again, I'm not going to lose my head about it!

Regards,
Steve " Unquote

First of all, no on second thought let’s go over it point by point so YOU can understand.

You said: “Hey Larry, thanks for your comments, ”
Hey! No problem, but the name is Laurence, not Larry, Stevie.

Stevie said: “I'm sure you've heard opinions are like assholes; everybody has one, yours just seem to be connected.”
I can definitely see that in your defensive statements.

Stevie said: “I expressed my complaints at a forum which allowed me to do just that, the "complaints board" hence your vein of thinking is that every writer here can be considered a whiner, “
Yes, but some people have a point.

Stevie said: “but pigeons like you are so easy to shoot down, let me go over it point by point;”
Are you absolutely sure you want to do that?

Stevie said: “1) 10 or 20 years? how long are you going to be a doormat larry?”
So your idea of a “doormat” is that if I disagree with you I should shut-up?

Stevie said: “2) offer reimbursment?”
Absolutely. If you are not satisfied with something you would want your money back, so, be a man, and at least offer them some reimbursement, after all you have 3 cars, a Harley, a million dollar home & a place in Osoyoos B.C.

Stevie said: “They save a ton of money on "yes men" like you larry who question nothing.”
Actually if you knew me the terms “pigeon, doormat and yes men” are ridiculous, probably because management and the instructors get a little miffed because I always ask questions, only mine are pertinent and I probably cost them more money due to my concerns. Get it?

Stevie said: “3) They did come knocking on my door; as you know, they are desperately short of drivers here in Albeta & have been augmenting with drivers from B.C. & Sask.”
Ahh! It must be nice to be in that high demand. Oh! You can count Ontario and Manitoba in on the Augments too.

Stevie said: “4) Those buses were grounded by DOT officials who spent 2 days in June at the Edmonton garage inspecting buses & driver logs.”
It’s not surprising, was your log book correctly done?

Stevie said: “5) the "clientele" are pieces of shit as was evident by last wednesday's actions. So my assessment was spot on while your "security expierience" did not allow you to see the writing on the wall.”
Stevie, your “spot on” assessment is wrong, as you are. It was an freak isolated incident. The driver, who was not you, obviously finished his duties, going well beyond what you did, when your thing happened. He’s actually a hero because he got everyone else off the bus and nobody else was injured badly, also he helped contain the individual until the police arrived. See, far more than you are capable of.

Stevie said: “6) I don't hide behind the skirts of a pathetically ineffective union. My rep had his chance & did nothing. unions are for the weak of mind & spirit. Stand up for yourself Larry!”
Stevie, the union might be “pathetically ineffective “, but it is because there are those who will not let the union do their job, they would rather quit or not say anything.

Stevie said: “7) the only person who puts food in my mouth is me. I simply decide who I'll work for, how & when. it's the Alberta advantage... it's worked out pretty well too, 3 cars, a harley, a million dollar home & a place in Osoyoos B.C.”
Stevie, you are such a survivor, I take it you grow and hunt your own food, yeah right. lol

Stevie said: “8) you are almost right about one thing Larry, it's just that you got it backwards; I'm better off without Greyhound; but then again, I'm not going to lose my head about it!


Regards,
Steve”

Sounds like you lost your head a long time ago, Stevie.

Right backatcha,
Laurence
57 days ago by Joy [send email]
I have just had one of the worst experiences in my life on a greyhound bus. With the price of gas, I decided to take greyhound for an 8 hr round trip to see a friend in Canada. I was treated like a criminal, bossed around, a part of my arms length of tickets was taken by "accident" by the greyhound employee checking on one of the legs and I was MADE TO PAY FOR THE REPLACEMENT. I had booked online, asked them to look at the reservation and re-issue me a ticket. They told me I had STOLEN it and was trying to use it again. I am a 27 year old teacher. I was dressed in jeans and a pull over sweater, I am sure I don't look like a criminal. At one point the Greyhound employee looked at my purse and said I had the tickets in there, to which I asked him if he'd like to check for himself. I will be contacting corporate, although I'm sure it won't go anywhere.
54 days ago by Marie [send email]
the experience I have encountered with some of the slobs (drivers) is unfathomable. These are the guys with candy wrappers around their seats, shirts unbuttoned to show their freakishly hairy chests... one driver even patting my behind, whom am I more apprehensive of?
Cleanup your act greyhound! My Grandmother used to ride your busses safely, why can't I now!
38 days ago by Jeannie S [send email]
I too also experienced the most horrendous ride of a lifetime. I travelled from North Bay to Winnipeg in January 2007 with my two children 12& 14 at the time. It was economical and thought good value at $600.00 Litle did I realize it would end up a 26 hour ride from hell that was nothing short of partying, screaming, yelling, fighting, excessive alchohol consumption and pot smoking that not one single driver took control of. I repeatedly complained, only to be taunted by the offenders. From fear of retaliation I kept quiet and vowed and delclared to NEVER EVER ride Greyhound again.
I share my experience with anyone who listens and hopes to deter them from subjecting themselves to Greyhounds rides from HELL!!
Upon arriving back home I contacted Greyhound by phone, email, and snail mail, with no response other than. "We have done all we can to ensure the safety of our passengers". This is bullshit!!!
I have documentation of dates, times and drivers and nothing was done. At one point of travel near Thunder Bay the driver flagged down an RCMP WITH A FLASHLIGHT!!! to take control of 2 passengers in a fist fight...apparently she had "no radio contact" UNBELIEVABLE!!! Word of advice to anyone who considers travel by Greyhound...If you value your life, choose another mode of transportation. The drivers will do nothing to ensure your safety. J.S
22 days ago by Patrick [send email]
VISA card charged twice for the same service!

Hi
My name is Patrick, I used your GPX service on Aug 30, 2008 to send some packages to Ottawa Ontario Canada from Edmonton Alberta Canada. Here is my problem, I sent 5 packages that cost $229.21 I have the waybill number (51706303445)and fee, fine no problem it was put on my visa, however I checked my statment and I noticed that same day and
time I was charged $316.48 by Greyhound on my visa aswell. That makes two charges to my visa when I only should have paid for one. I contacted Visa and told them that I had not signed for the $316.48 charge. They told me that they would investigate the problem for me, but to try and reslove the issue with Greyhound in the meantime. So I contacted the manager of the station in Edmonton south location by the name of Linda Lavinge her number in Canada is area code 780-433-1919,
and she told me that yes I should not have been charged the $316.48 and would be refunded. It has been almost a month now and no corrective measures taken. It's not very professional.

Patrick

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