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GRANTON MARKETING

1. they don't have a company website.

2. they pay by commission.

3. they do not sign a contract with you.

4. require you to tell customers stuff that are not correct.
i was suppose to sell this 'wellness village' granton card, which customers need to pay $29.90 for the card which entitles them to one free facial trial. i was told to tell them that it is their signature intensive facial which they will be providing for free. i was actually convinced by myself so i actually bought one and went down to try it. turned out that it was worst than those normal basic facial i went for outside! Signature intensive indeed!

5. weirdly secretive.
the 'leaders' of the company actually seemed to be withholding a lot of extra information to me when they realise that i am not going to stay there for long. like... there will be a management course which potential leaders will be attending & they did not tell me about it. and like... leaders actually earn $5 more per card. etc etc information which they withheld from me all the time. the way they act like they are so open about everything, but i know they are keeping a lot of things from me, probably because they are scared that if i run off, quit or something, and holding too much information on my hand will only bring them more troubles.

6. claimed to be a new organisation hence recruiting.
i don't know, it really sounds weird. too weird to be explained.

7. fired me just because i didn't manage to turn up for work as i was having splitting headache. told me they will calculate my pay and let me know. but never heard from them again. like wtf?
7. and many more. there are too many things in the company that made it weird.

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davidon
, SG
Jan 15, 2015 12:12 am EST

I think the juice you guys drank or are drinking is laced with his sperm...that's why he says have a juicy day.

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meticulousme
, US
Jul 10, 2014 7:31 am EDT
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OH MY GOD. Thank you so much, especially you sigurista, the one who posted the "dec 1, 2012" post. I was about to go to the said orientation tomorrow. Thank goodness I found this and you, sigurista. I also went to their office in San Miguel Ave. in Pasig City. My dad warned me about the speed hiring thing and told me that it is about SALES. And yes, it is. Good thing I meticulously searched for their website and found this. Thank you so much.

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optimal pte
, SG
Jun 01, 2014 1:45 pm EDT

@ Angsty
Totally understand your predicament
Totally embraced your terse experience.
However, if this episode should teach anything at all,
STAY IN SCHOOL...get educated really well..
a diploma is unspeakably over qualified for door to door salesperson
meaning, you don't really need it on the street peddling..or doors knocking
If I may be so bold, please go ahead and get a degree as well..(Full time or part time)
When I got my degree, I too left the same episode behind.
No doubt, you will feel dejected
But trust me, you are so much better with your new found wisdom.
Have a good one.

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angsty
, SG
May 12, 2014 10:31 pm EDT

Hi, I'm from Singapore and am too a victim of the scammers at Granton. Decided to work during my polytechnic break and this job was offereing a not bad pay. ($70 a day) The manager did not state the pay or anything in the contract, all he did was made my friend and i list our particulars and jobs we had previously worked for. We asked about the working hours and he said it was a 9-5 job. But might drag on to 630pm. Fine. On my first day of work, my friend and I came at 9 and he said we were late. We have to be at the office (Hongkong St) at 830am. They did some preparation by pitching to the other colleagues and the stupid JUICE thing because they think it hypes us up but to me it just seemed like a nonsensical waste of time because it was like 1 hour plus.. my leader was some annoying indian (roshan) who self praised himself the whole way. At the end of the day, we has a score of only selling 3 cards altogether (2 cards, me. 1 cards, him) but he stole my sales and reported to the manager that he was the one who sold 2 cards instead. The manager also said that for the first "training" week we can only get $50 a day (which was like $5 per hour i would have rather worked in macdonalds?) he said the pay system goes like this for part timers: $12 per card sold. if i only sold 1 card it means i can collect the $12 at the end of the day and the remaining ($50-$12=$38) at the end of the month. I thought it was pretty fair and i continued working, Throughout my experience there, I thought the other leaders (besides the cheater who took my sale) were pretty nice and friendly. Sometimes if i was having a bad day, they would sell some and give it to me and vice versa. When school started, I had no choice but to leave the company. I have an outstanding of $200 and i am only 17 years old. Everytime i call or text the managers they will not pick up and ignore my message. THEY WONT PAY YOU THE OUTSTANDING AND MY FRIEND THREATENED TO BRING THIS UP TO THE MINISTRY OF MANPOWER, instead of telling us to calm down, the manager replied "go ahead" DOES THIS MEANS ITS BECAUSE SHES REALLY NOT GOING TO PAY US? We are both teenagers, there were a few other teenagers who I'm sure did not receive their pay as well. What can we do?

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Wild10
, KW
May 12, 2014 1:03 am EDT

GRANTON IS S STUPID COMPANY DON'T YOU DARE TO JOIN..., , /, , , , , , GRANTON!

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yasir ijaz
, GB
Nov 22, 2013 9:47 am EST

hello dears,
i am from pakistan and same ### company was here in pakistan, i also worked in this company for at least 6 months, and same drama is here like damn juice ritual, no pay, no salary, only commision, and you live like a slave, they dont trust on you, even if you are ill or going to die they dont bother and want you in their office at any cost and you cannot sale anything on basis of truth, and the person from this company named "Naveed Safara" is now working in bangladesh, uh, what he was doing with those peoples.

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met the devils eye to eye
, SG
Jul 02, 2013 11:21 pm EDT

dear all, a copy and paste from [redacted]/scam/frauds/deception and etc;

1. Be wary of salespitches. Does manipulation or coercion enter into the work is presented? Do you find an eagerness to sign you up, get a commitment (a sizeable deposit). Without respecting your right to consider the matter at your own discretion? A Yep. You don't have to pay no money. But like when it is your first day to try it out you sign up then and now or not at all.

2. Note the mood of the organization. Are there hordes of people involved? Does the organization respect the rate of each person's progress or is it a hurry up, results-guaranteed affair? A Depends on the leader. Some will just put you out on the street with no training.

3. What is the group leader like? What are his/her credentials?

4. What are the personal instructors like? What are their credentials? A Anyone they can brainwash enough to stay!

5. Speak to others who have already participated. Do they repeat the key phrases of their experience? Watch carefully for this, and note that parroting may be a symptom of a well washed brain. Try to get these people to tell about their individual experiences instead. Are they able to do this thoughtfully? If so, this is a good sign. A These guys have trainers meetings dedicated to what to say to new people to get them to stick in the business.

6. Does the group require ongoing participation of people who have already mastered the work to the extent of actively recruiting new customers? Do these people provide time consuming free salesmanship for the organization? If so, ask them why they choose to do this. (And watch for repetitive key phrases again or an irrational zeal.)

7. Does the group place heavy emphasis on a specific (rigid higher, or holier) authority figure guru, leader, teacher? Is such emphasis built into the atual work process? Can authority be challenged? Does the group provide ample opportunity to question the methods, techniques, theories of work or does it have an implicit attitude of we know shat is best for you? A Authority figures holier than thou Murray Larry Paul. Someone's owner. Never question or reinvent their precious system with its 5 & 8.

8. Can you observe any negative techniques, especially in the beginning exercised or instructions? These might include obvious personal insults, put downs, tearing-down of egos or less obvious of giving orders, bullying, threatening and general reinforcement of diminished sense of self. A Watch dissenters get fired, belittled and discredited!

9. Does the process involve any severe physical discomfort or pain? Mental or emotional pain? A Yeah. Going door to door to rip people off. Regret for having trained people to waste their time with this business.

10. Is hypnosis part of the process without being fully acknowledged as such?

11. Does any aspect of the work go against a personal belief conviction, or religious concept? If so, are your feelings respected?

12. Does the process project an air of mystery, secrecy of things not explained? Are you instructed or encouraged to do any work you do not fully understand (including chanting in another language without adequate translation)? A You Only get told a bit at a time about the company until they have you hooked.

13. Is there any responsible assessment or screening process of each applicant's physical, emotional, and mental state before admission? Or is money the only prerequisite to doing the work? A None. They only want people that can sell.

14. How do you feel about the people participating? Do they seem intelligent, balanced, thoughtful, aware? Or is there an underlying mood of desperation, or an apparent inability or unwillingness to think things over? A Pity. They are stuck. They are committed. To admit it is all wrong is humbling. It is like a gambler who gets a good machine once in a while. Once in a while these guys have a good day in the field or actually retain a good guy. And then famine forever. It is a disease.

15. Does the group tacitly discourage members from continuing close relationships with nonconverts and encourage members to recruit everyone in their lives? A You should not associate with anyone that might discourage you from being in the business. Personal recruiting is a big plus!

16. Is any form of intimidation of dominance over others encouraged by the work?

17. Does the group place emphasis on affiliations with celebrities, politicians, industry? A You should here how they promote that they work with clients like the Yankees, Pizza hut, Papa Johns, Sprint, DTV, AT&T, Stamps.com, Staples and many others.

These questions are used by some people to determine if a group is a cult. The answers are my person responses with regard to dsmax

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cheated-disgusted
, SG
Jul 02, 2013 10:47 pm EDT

girls beware and save yourself from all the sweet talking devils...

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silliest_mistake_in_my_life
, SG
Jul 02, 2013 10:21 pm EDT

NO APPOINTMENT LETTER...NO SALARY...DAILY PAY...NO CPF...WORK LIKE A SLAVE...SUBMIT YOUR SOUL AND BODY TO THEM...WORSHIP THEM (they are the DEVIL in disguise)...LIVE FOR THEM TO SPEND YOUR EARNINGS IN DRINKING IN HIGH CLASS BAR!

THEY ARE VERY SMOOTH LIARS, ACTORS, CON ARTIST AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THEMSELVES...THEY NORMALLY LIVE WITH THEIR PARENTS AND BEG AND BORROW MONEY FROM PARENTS TO NEW COMERS IN THEIR CULT!

AT THE END OF THE DAY AFTER LOSING EVERYTHING AND WHEN YOU FINALLY LEAVE THEM...YOU WILL FEEL LIKE WALKING OUT OF JAIL(HELL)...and finally free again!

SO IF YOU WANT TO BE A HUMAN THEN KEEP AWAY AT LEAST 1 KILOMETER FROM THIS SATAN'S!

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silliest_mistake_in_my_life
, SG
Jul 02, 2013 10:07 pm EDT

No Appointment letter! - No SALARY! - No CPF! - Daily Pay! - Must work in the evenings and public holidays once you have work there for two weeks!
They are world class - CONTROL FREAKS - THEY WILL CONTROL YOUR LIFE TIL L YOU LOOSE EVERY GOOD THINGS, FROM GOOD FRIENDS TO FAMILY ... then you will find yourself worshiping them like they Created you and than you will become a very good liar and very good in scamming people. you will also become good in survival skills like, living on pow, and walk all over to save bus fare
Go n experience it yourself - this is where Devils are in disguise!1

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silliest_mistake_in_my_life
, SG
Jul 02, 2013 9:52 pm EDT

I work in that company for a short while. They are very screwed up people. Owners live on peoples money. only commission but they control you like a slave and you must worship the managers and the DEVIL Ara'bad'. This is an eye opening experience of a life time to know how if feels to be a SLAVE and live on peanuts everyday. Managers and leaders are best actors(liars) probably they can be given an Oscar award as e number 1 scam artist on planet earth!
The following is copy & paste from http://wolfram.org/scam/ds-max/ ... PLEASE CHECK HERE ABOUT HOW BAD THE COMPANY IS!;The DS-Max belief system and life

It is financial independence through the ds-max way of life -- or a life of poverty and working for others just to get laid off one day. It is the 9 to 5 people are losers. The mindset of a ds-max guy is on success through the business or nothing at all. To always be the one that hits every door. That gets with all the new people. Who is the best retrainer. The one who is setting the example in the office by hitting the bell.
It is always promoted that it might be between 6 to 18 months to get to ownership. You donât want people to think it is simple. And for some people -- they do get promoted. But what about those that donât? I will now give a list of personal observations about what a life is like for a leader that is in for a year or three and is not yet promoted.
1.They live day to day. Often enough -- depending if they sell or not that day -- will determine supper and transportation for the next day. No sale = a poor supper and working close to the office the next day because you canât afford to contribute gas or come up with bus fare to go far out.
2.They live in a merch house. This is a home or apartment where many people in the office also live -- often enough the owner too!
3.They have some or all of the following: unpaid parking and speeding tickets, unpaid bills, let their bank accounts go negative and unpaid federal and or state taxes. They hope to get to ownership and pay everything off some day when they are fabulously wealthy. But in the meantime their credit is six feet under and they are scared of cops because of the unpaid tickets.
4.They donât have nice clothes. They have clothes that make them look professional enough to merch -- but when observed closely -- are worn and tattered.
5.Their shoes are worn. Often lopsided from the where and tear of walking 8 hours a day.
6.They need food or money from family of friends to get buy.
7.Many have done stints living in cars.
8.They zealously promote the opportunity they will have some day.
9.They know all the impacts, have met all the VPs and know all about the history
10.They have had and lost many crews.
11.They have numerous road trip stories.
12.They can do almost any campaign.
13.Most likely they do not have a car. They can not afford it. (Remember they are paying all this money out to retrains and for transportation in the field.) If they do have a car, most likely it is not insured.
14.They will always retrain someone -- even though they may not know where they might be sleeping in a week.

Guys that give their lives to this business and donât get anywhere get my respect and pity. These guys have seen more rejection and they keep coming back for more. They have each seen many people get promoted yet they canât seem to do it themselves. To admit failure is too hard. They know so much about the company yet they canât be part of it. They know all the good impacts and atmosphere games and how to find the good territoryâs. They know where to find the best restrooms and cheap restaurants around town. They have made a commitment to succeed in the business and now they want to make it work.

These same guys can overcome big negatives. They can have a crew toast and then come back from the field and help clean the office. Their parents can plead with them to leave. But they wonât. Why? Because they have heard and now believe the stories about how successful VPâs overcame their loved ones objections and that now they are financially independent business moguls. What do you think some of the top stories are that are given at Rallyâs? How a VP said something like "I know you may not believe in this business Mom, but do you believe in me? Canât you just let me try this for a year and letâs just see if I can make it work?" VPâs will heroically claim that they might have gotten kicked out of a parentâs house for sticking with the business; but now they are paying there parents mortgage! The career leaders latch on to these stories and believe them. They hope to be telling these same stories some day at a rally.

Some career leaders have gotten themselves into situations they canât get out of. May be they are in a merch house and have no money saved. If they quit they get kicked out of their home and then donât have a place to stay.

Yet owners need a bunch of committed leaders that they know will never make it. Leaders provide retrains and atmosphere. They work hard and provide the owners rent and a salary. A Corp of leaders is needed to provide a foundation to build the office up. These leaders are all lead to believe that by believing in the marketing program, that they too will be able to obtain financial independence.

Understand that owners have been figuring out how to get people to stick with their business since 1980. They have been through countless people quitting on them. Thus they have loads of ammunition to give reps or their family members when they rail at them. They practice rebuttals to get them to calm down and stick it out. Advice is given at rallies and phone calls are made all the time just on these topics! They have years of trial and error on their side. On the other hand, an anguished girl friend or worried parent is dealing with something they have never heard of before -- something that someone they love has embraced. Such a person wants to be open minded -- but then they see that their loved one is going door to door, not making money and has a changed personality. They worry that he might be in a cult. The loved one is not worshipping a weird God. They are enslaved by the Ds-max psychology of financial independence through door to door sales.

The reality is most will fail. Maybe one out of 20 people hired will actually make it to leadership, for every 100 leaders, maybe one will make it to ownership and of 100 owners, only a fraction will survive and a fraction of those will be VPâs or even regional managers. You are better off trying to strike it rich in Vegas than in DS-max. And if you do stick it rich in Ds-max -- it is at the expense of the leaders. Getting money from Ds-max is a peg or two above accepting drug money.

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sixthstone
, SG
Jun 14, 2013 9:09 am EDT

i worked there for 3mnths. been promoted as a leader after 3 weeks or so. but no overriding pay just the "basic" of $600 a week or more if u sell more.
go door to door every single day from Mon to Sat. sometimes have to do street-pitching or knock on ppl home in the heartland.
yup. its tough. walk under the sun whole day. talk to at least 100ppl a day. for $600 a week. worthwhile? i don't know. you be the judge.
i try not to be too begative here. like i said, judge for yourself. i'd just put forth the facts and you do the maths so to speak.
theyre running a company and the boss did mention that what they do is train ppl to be an entrepreneur instead of employee. thats why you have to work 6 days a week from morning to dusk. sweat yourself out. i mean literally sweat. and you have to put up with the other so called leaders and managers infuriating antics.
granted. i did commit a hosts of mistakes while i was there. mistakes which a leader should not commit. you still have to go to work if youre sick. "just pop-in a couple of panadols if youve fever!", the boss actually ever said. gives 100% of tour time and commitment to the company especially if youre the leader sunce you'd have a few ppl in your team. family day on Wed and even on Sunday. for $600 bucks a week or 800 or even 1k if your fantastic in your sale.
but what bugs me is the lack or the non-existence of any paper whatsoever that stted youre working with the company. nothing. nada. no benefit whatsoever. no annual leave. if your sick, get your own treatment. the boss will ask for mc if youre sick and youre a leader but they will still deduct your pay by being absent. whatever reason for not turning up for work is not valid. this is what came out from the boss mouth. nothing. even if your hse was on fire and you were frantically fighting to put the fire down thus renders you unable to go to work, nope. your pay will still be deducted. thats the fact. bad? a scam? i don't know. you judge. since the boss said theyre producing entrepreneurs not employee
needless to say, i've since quit the company and now doing what i do and knows best.
oh yes. their promotion are alright. i did buy some for meself and my family like the domino pizza and the manhattan fish. they honoured the coupons. whether you like the food or not thats entirely different matter.
so..well. thats all ive to say. peace.

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L_G
, SG
Feb 20, 2013 12:49 pm EST

Hey guy im currently working there now its my 18Th day . i just finished my as just to clear some misynderstandings

1they dont cheat our money
as long as i work hard and i sell they give me the money i deserve . im only 18 and my basic is 400, they pay according to your competency level not tryong to take advantage of u or cheap labour

2 its a great working environment
yrah the highier tier people are SuPeR secretive, but they are rlly nice if u get to know about them more. they are many 17, 18, 20+ people and even uncles like 40+ altogether like ten of us. we have fun n help each other out

3 they dont force us to sell clearcuts
its a great misunderstangin. in my eighteen days there never have my leader force me to use my money to sell my card or forbid me from going home if i dont clear cut . if i dont do well like 3cards a day, leader will just talk to me ask me what happen n do better . thats all

4we are not liars
im a customer myself . i know hw it feels to be lied to . i wouldnt sell stuff that are untrue. in my time here ive sod dominos, popeyes, amici, and manhattan fish, they are all grrat offers . we dont have to lie to sell to them . sometimes the customers will just take and look and buy 2immediately. we are not liars please dont run us down like this

i eas greatly appalled by the comments . in the working world sure u have to see some peoples black face or scoldings and expectations but since were working it means we arematured and old enough tobtolerate and differentiate what i rifht or wrong not blamingothers . I actually find this job great for an 18yr old np experience just finish As but willing to work hard.. no rude comments please just my personal experience :)

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optimal pte
, SG
Dec 22, 2012 11:21 am EST

I'd have to say
There's too much attention on mediocrity
that when true Greatness appears
they're deemed as freaks of nature or worse
repudiation.. repulsion.. abhorred.
The uphill climb to ownership is ardous, life-depleting, nerve wrecking at least.
Friends are lost, families neglected ( at times), and all for what...?
As an owner, 2 imperatives must be defended at all cost..
Team motivation and Personal attitude
Sometimes, personal sustenance may be sacrificed for long term gains.
At Granton, we take personal pride in these sacrifices.
That's why, sometimes despite our sartorial palatability,
those trademark confidence, unabashness still oozes out regardless
how irksome we sound.
This is the mark of True Greatness.

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sigurista
, PH
Dec 01, 2012 9:07 pm EST

What is that even mean? Get a life.

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sigurista
, PH
Dec 01, 2012 8:54 pm EST

Good Day to all Granton Marketing/Granton World/Optimo International/ Ideal Approach victims! Let me share to you my experience with this company. I found their misleading job opening at JobStreet.com and received their email inviting me over for an interview on September 10 by Nomer Ordinario. I came over the office in San Miguel, Pasig City and this Nomer guy conducted my interview with his arrogant attitude and asked me to come over next day for my second interview/observation day.

On my observation day, I was assigned to Bernard Bernardo and stayed in SM Mall of Asia when we were assigned in Makati Avenue. He was bragging that he didn't sell anything for 2 weeks in his first month and claiming he earned Php70, 000 on his first month (What a show off! If he really earned that much, why he couldn't buy himself a new phone or clothes?), I was somehow amazed with his claims and accepted the job. He even asked me to come over the next day for my first day,

On my first day, I was surprised with all the noise and everything. There’s this juice thing, fake smiles, practice pitching, goal setting and all the crap and I’ve been doing that for a month. All I can say that this is a bad company especially to all the fresh graduates out there. They promise for a basic salary regardless of your sales after two weeks, it is already a commission based. They are also claiming that they are not sales because there is no quota but it is a pointing system so therefore IT IS A SALES! The people I have worked are all arrogant because they have drop 7-10 cards where in fact they didn’t even drop anything.

These people don’t give a damn about your well-being and they only care about your money, like one time I broke my leg while on my way to work and forced me to work. Or even the time a snatcher stole my bag with the products inside. They still push me to drop a card even though all my belongings were stolen (good thing I had my cellphone and ID). They also promise for my return money but they canceled it. Or even the time my grandmother passed away and they wouldn’t allow me to leave or never come back to work. But I did come back after that week.

If you didn’t sell anything for the day, you are required to walk an extra mile. Worst of all, they are giving direct marketing and all marketing profession a bad name. Deceiving people that this is a very good job where in fact this is the worst. No cash bonds will be given to the previous employees. WHAT A LIAR! Good thing my friends were smart enough not to pursue this kind of opportunity (if you even consider this). It was a big mistake for me and learned my lesson, I didn’t spent another day in that whack job company although the only consolation I got was friendship from my co victims who were also previous employees of Granton. This is not the only branch in the Philippines but they also have offices in Caloocan, Muntinlupa, Cagayan de Oro and they are planning to grow all over Philippines. Fresh graduates, never allow yourselves to become a victim of these companies because they will only waste your time, money and possible your reputation. Although the products are cheap and somehow authentic, their working habit is not ethical. I even doubt if they are recognized in the Department of Labor and Employment in the Philippines. Better do your research and take pre-cautionary actions. God Bless us all!

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menagull
, AE
Sep 13, 2012 9:25 am EDT

this is a hard working but good job if we can not work hard why should we blam on them. i" m studing in msc pakistan Qaid_e_azam universty me and my 5 friend we joined in this company in 2007 in faizabad rawalpindi office all guys are very nice and they always protect new peoples they teach them how they can save there families and how to meet new peoples i "m making good money now i", m in canada but when i will go back i will again join that office that is my home my mother i had learned alot... thats a good experience see u soon guys...
love u boss

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menagull
, AE
Sep 13, 2012 9:13 am EDT

no its not true coz it doent mean that if we can cont do markeeting coz its a taff job we r against of this work . its a fature baised company i was worked i this company since 2002 now i have my owen home nice car and bank balance if u have some goal in ur life this is the best company to prove ur selfs may be 1 or 2 persons r not good but i work in pindi office such a nice company they give males and females everyone respect any opportunity and they always sport peoples boss is a very kind and cooperative helpful and he always team player loyal honest wel wisher, ... person i never forget him he is real teacher and honest person so i love pindi office coz whatever i have because of Allha and my boss

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optimal pte
, SG
Jul 10, 2012 9:32 am EDT

I have to disagree with this lot
Maybe we are just not there yet, but all the sufferings and anguish culminating to
misdirected angst are sadly inevitable. I'd soon blame it on our culture or crutch mentality.
I wouldnt want to exude elitism or sound haughty but Granton was not founded overnight.
From Canada, Mexico, China and even Russia, blood and sweat are nom de rigueur
only heard during "pointless" pitching exercise.
Where else can one found work ethics tirelessly promoted every single day except Sundays? And the 1st rule is attitude. Altogether there are 8 rules.
1. Have a great attitude
2. Work your territory correctly
3. Be on time
4. Maintain your attitude
5. Be prepared
6. Know why there and what doing
7. Work full eight hours
8. Take control

And the biggest taboo in atmosphere meeting is sulking and spreading negatives.
In fact, they might teach you how to overcome these negative feedback or feelings.
So mostly any negative news are swept under the carpet less the new recruits would get affected.

Granton is worldwide incorporated. its little wonder, how much hardwork is poured into realising this dream. So spare some slacks for the boss. he was once out in the field too and languishing in the same puddle of vile, demoralising criticism.

Incidently, I found someone in the US who devoted a full blog about Granton and
its affiliates. Prewarned, this may sway you to actually support what Granton has done.
Here is the link:
http://wolfram.org/scam/ds_max/

Khafla and Have A Nice Day!

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Ex-granton
, SG
Jun 25, 2012 9:20 am EDT

I was sick that day and totally have no voice to work. But this leader Patwin, doesnt believe that im sick and insisted and demanded me to report to work 830am early in the morning just to do the stupid preaching warm up when I am already not feeling well and have no voice at all. Im like wtf?! And i quarreled with him, questioning why the f*** does he wants me to come early in the morning just to do the stupid morning preaching ritual and go home after the meeting which ends at ard 10am. Moreover, the morning ritual is plainly just preaching to warm up and thats all. It is not even important and he bloody wants me to come in the morning just because he doesnt believe that im sick. And he claims that is the management idea. But in fact, it is all his own idea.. Most of the people in the company quited because people are unhappy working with him, so do I.

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Ex-granton
, SG
Jun 25, 2012 8:38 am EDT

Patwin the sucker. He's an old bloody hypocrite who can't be trusted. Beware of him, the gay backstabbing you from the back making another story.

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pootpoot
, SG
May 23, 2012 2:52 pm EDT

overworking and tiny pay

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pootpoot
, SG
May 23, 2012 11:37 am EDT

true true

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, QA
May 17, 2012 1:09 pm EDT

hi all the victims out there in granton.
I have been working in granton marketing company@36C hongkong street for 2 weeks.
Ok, first and foremost, i went for the first interview, and i was shortlisted. After that you will be give an orientation by your respectively leaders. I was attached to a leader called PATWIN his contact no(8644 4600). seriously the whole thing is ###. Came the first day of my job, everyone was all fake and smiles. We had to do a warm up of preaching of the product (Domino's Pizza) 29.90 to one another and give pointers on things to improve.He did the stupid juice ritual thing which was pretty gay to hype everyone up for the day but it was terribly gay. Nobody liked his face anyway so that could explain his gay actions. The juice ritual thing that everyone was so into it which was something about . ''Lets have a super and fantastic juicy day'' JUICE SINGAPORE. if I remembered correctly. THIS IS TOTALLY ###.

At the end of the day, which was 630pm, the company actually gathered in the small room and preached to each other again to pick up points to counter customers' rejections and did some gay ritual. It ended at around late. And this cycle repeats over and over again, until you quits the job.

Ok, Basically I was fired by ICE due to some leaders being backstabbers.
Here are the few names.
Augustine or a.k.a Austyn, Andy, Patwin.
On the last day of the job, and actually wasn't my last day of the job, i was attached to this leader 'Austyn' Actually there were 3 people in our group. We were deployed to Ngee Ann poly to sell the cards.. so @ the end of the entire day we dropped 9, 7, 6. but the leader gave each of us 1 card. So, the total score is 7, 8, 7. And when we were back to the office, Patwin asked Austyn about me that how's my progress?.. Eventually, Austyn told Patwin that I dropped 2 by myself and the rest of the 5cards were dropped by my other team member.I was so fed up that he actually backstab me. In the end, Patwin use his fire-breath at me, which was why his mouth is damn stinks and scolded me for not being enthu enough.the next day, i voiced out that i'm leaving this f***ing company for goodness sake to Andy . And this leader went to complain to ICE LEONG. And I was sacked..

My advice to you guys who wants to work @ granton out there.
Normally, when you are called for an interview or what. The would mentioned about their company names.
But, you can actually see that they only mentioned about 36C HONGKONG STREET ONLY. they dont mentioned about the company's name because their reputation is being tarnished. And they will try to cover their company's name by saying that they are from optimo pte ltd.
Ok, if guys noticed this, inside the office, it is pretty run down and there's no GRANTON banner inside the f***ing office. They are so scared to put their f***ing company's name there.

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nemojaar
, SG
Apr 25, 2012 4:34 pm EDT
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I just finished my national service and was searching for a job because I needed money and was also dying from boredom at home whilst waiting for my university to start. Then I found this company on Classifieds which didn't have much detail about the job. I called them and they asked me to come down for an interview. What the heck, I was desperate for a job anyways. The interview was brief and the interviewer did not explain much about the job. He told me he will call me in the evening without a second thought, even though he did not ask for my qualifications nor my full name and IC number. It became suspicious so I questioned about the job to which are the points he said to make the job appealing:

1. $60/ a day, 8am-6.30pm excluding commissions. He said they each earn an average of 80 bucks a day.
2. Transport will be provided to take you to the venue from the office building and back, like a van or a minibus .

Came the first day of my job, everyone was all fake and smiles. We had to do a warm up of preaching of the product (Amici Restaurant at Holland Village) to one another and give pointers on things to improve. It was 2 hours before we left the office, which was around 1030am. A van waiting? No. Walked from Hong Kong street to the Raffles Place MRT to take the train. Transport fee covered? No. I got attached this 'leader' named Patwin who was super enthu about the salesman job, even though he claimed to have a triple degree qualification. He did the stupid juice ritual thing which was pretty gay to hype everyone up for the day but it was terribly gay. Nobody liked his face anyway so that could explain his gay actions.

I picked up points Patwin said to convince the customer to buy the 'membership card' from Amici Restaurant. I used his points and learned later that they were lies to trick people into buying the products. Up to today I feel bad about telling those lies (which I did not know then) to the customers about the restaurant because they will be furious when they try to redeem their cake/wine with what I told them. It's $30 a card.

At the end of the day, which was 630pm, the company actually gathered in the small room and preached to each other again to pick up points to counter customers' rejections and did some gay ritual. It ended at around 745pm.

Then Patwin came to me and he said: I forgot to tell you, newcomers get $40 for the first three days, regardless of the sales. End of day, mad as f***. I actually had 5 sales that day, which meant an extra 10 bucks. I collected the $40 cash that night.

But I still could spare the next day because I really needed the money. I was a fool.
This ugly lady who speaks bad English, Ice (I think), brought out this point: A winner never quits and a quitter never wins.

The next day, same thing; they did the same gay juice ritual in the morning. This time they deployed me to this area which they had visited about a month ago. How the f*** do you expect a newcomer such as myself to sell a product to a community of people who were already irritated by a salesman who sold the same product a month ago? I ended with 1 sale that day. I also lacked the motivation to sell because I had no commission anyways. Why should I work so hard?

When we got back with all those fake smiles and hype, they told us we couldn't collect the money that night but I was determined to quit because my profits is shown as:

12hours of tiresome commitment to the company, = $40.
Minus transport of traveling from home to office to venue to office to home~ $6.50.
Minus lunch ~$4.50.
That means I made about $29 in 12 hours with continuous walking up and down buildings from door to door because time=money. I was a fool to have come the second day.

They told me they will contact me about the money the next day, but never did. So I called and SMSed Patwin numerous times, which he played dumb. He kept telling me he will contact me the next day but never did. Then he asked me to contact the office but refused to give me the number, saying he doesn't have it (c'mon he worked for the company for 2 years but never has the office number?), nor can I find it on the internet. f***ing irresponsible guy. What am I, free labour?

So I took a half day leave from my current job to go down to the office to collect my pay and scolded them for their numerous lies, to which that Arabad guy threw $50 dollars on the table and walked away.

Full of deceptions and unethical methods to earn money, their client companies should know about this and not have any business with them. I guess it's right for me to say about this company: A quitter wins and a winner quits.

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x7hacker
, BD
Apr 18, 2012 8:11 pm EDT

So what u guys are saying is that Granton abandoned their business venture from Pakistan and Philippines? So are u entirely sure about this? If so can anybody tell me about their conditions in USA, Canada, Malaysia...or any other countries where they fled from...Thanx:D

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idealog is a scammer!!!!
, SG
Jan 19, 2012 4:00 am EST

OMG! i have outstanding pay with IDEALOG as well! Should i go to MOM? but my log sheet is with the company and i have no records of the days that i work already. How like that? you think they can still help me? from my own calculations, i have at least about 300 plus to collect leh.

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SleepyJ
, SG
Oct 05, 2011 5:35 am EDT

I called them up after seeing their ads on papers yesterday. They ask me to drop by for an interview immediately but i postponed it till today. Phew! They said, if I can't make it yesterday, the slot might be most probably taken up. I was like, wa, so fast? Is that company soooo good? Luckily I asked them for the company's name before going down for an interview today. I think their HP no is bogus too! When I called and asked about the jobscope and all, all they say is to come by for an interview, it was an events and advertising company. DUHHH! Thanks for all the comments. Granton, may you die with regrets! (: [censored]gards!

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xxxxx08
, PH
Jul 18, 2011 12:28 pm EDT
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is GRanton Marketing from singapore is also the same Granton Marketing in the Philippines.? Because they also invited me for an interview, so i research some info of their company and this is what i found. But i also found a website of their company and the content is really motivating plus they are offering a high salary based on their post in jobstreet. now i'm thingking if i still attend my interview.

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Kiks
, PH
Jul 18, 2011 4:51 am EDT

I'm lining up for an interview now. I didn't check the company profile first before I submitted my application. When I arrived at their office it seems too bare for an advertising company. That moment on I was having second thoughts and googled the Granton Marketing. And here's the thread that surprised me. Oh well, this will have to do.. Will just decline any request for another interview.

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vijar
, PH
Jul 17, 2011 12:09 pm EDT
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I'm from the Philippines, I was supposed to be interviewed by Granton tomorrow. I am so happy I happen to browse their company profile and was able ti dig in in this... Thank you so much to the writer... God to think I wa even gonna invite my friends to pass their resumes... God thank you so much

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spidurrman23
, PH
Jul 12, 2011 6:41 am EDT

I'm from the Philippines. I just received an e-mail that they want to interview me for their management/sales trainee position. Thank you to the writer for exposing the schemes of "Granton Marketing". I saved myself from getting involved with this scam. Before I saw this site I was already having a hunch that they are shady because they do not have any contact numbers in the office where I was abot to get interviewed plus my friend (who has been working a long time in the industry) says that Granton doesn't seem like a trustworthy company. Anyways, thank you for the heads up. I hope others would also save themselves from the scams of Granton Marketing while looking for a job, work, trabaho. etc.

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cyrpao
, PH
Jun 29, 2011 11:02 am EDT

I received an email from their Human Resource Manager this afternoon and she's inviting me to an interview for the Advertising Management Trainee position tomorrow and thank goodness i chanced upon this thread while checking their company profile. I don't think I want to come to that interview tomorrow. God is good :)

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cyrpao
, PH
Jun 29, 2011 10:59 am EDT

i just receive an email from them inviting me to an interview tomorrow for the advertising management trainee position and thank god chanced upon this thread as i was checking their company profile. I'm not going to that interview. God is good! :)

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charm_rinoa
, PH
May 30, 2011 5:12 pm EDT

Good day...I'm from the Pearl of the Orient. I recently applied for this job and was so overjoyed that I was immediately invited for an interview. Thank GOD! I use to research company profiles for my advantage in an interview and I luckily stumbled across this thread before involving myself to this somewhat "hell like" experience as most of you describe it. So...I'll be more than proud to decline their offer as one of their "Management Trainees" today! Thank you so much guys for sharing your experiences! You are indeed a life savers! Be bless and more power!

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Direct saleman
, SG
May 28, 2011 8:48 am EDT

sorry, I have to say Granton Singapore is not really scam company. Firstly the word "direct sale" mean you have to work hard to get your pay for the day. let take it as your company if you were the boss, will you want to see your guys never give the full effort in work and just waiting for pay day or you want to let your guys learn how to get your enjoyment through hardship? most of the company has given basic pay so people take advantage of pushing work to their junior and waiting for pay day only. i been in granton singapore for only 5 months and i was a leader that time.i took 9 weeks to be promoted as leader but i learn something if i never work myself with hardship, i never have a chance to see my talent to be a saleman.A truly Direct saleman is will have more exp that a retail saleman, because we know there many type of people in this world to handle problem they facing. i left granton singapore because i did something wrong outside. this world every job is all about sale.every company has their policy itself.

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dknkyle
, SG
May 09, 2011 6:39 pm EDT
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Yeah! Arabad.. Arrrrrraaaaaa... BAD! He is bad, bad, BAD! Such a bloody ###! A smiling face that is used to cover the face of a devil/satan! Looking at his face makes me feels so sick! He looks so satanic, just like those people who practice witchcraft/Falunggong! So people, stay FWA FWA away from this sinner/satan before you got demon posses! Draw nearer to our HEAVENLY ABBA! Be concious of HIS Goodness, Grace and Unmerited Favor, HE is truely a great GOD that provides and supplies ! Trusting in HIM would not only favor you but also prosper you in no time! Arabad the satan and all his followers (sinners) would only rob you of everything and cause you to be fall from Grace! Trust in our HEAVENLY ABBA and you shall not fear of anything, including Arabad the satan and all his sinners, because when you turn to CHRIST, No Weapons Form Against You Shall Prosper! Never Ever! If GOD is with you, Who can be against you? The answer... Nobody!

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GRANTON IS A CON!!!
, SG
May 09, 2011 8:39 am EDT

Its all a con-job... the guys going to the field all work with NO BASIC... for anyone still there... WAKE THE HELL UP!

Theres no basic, nothing... Granton is a major con job... Arabad is the main con man behind it all.

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dknkyle
, SG
Apr 13, 2011 6:03 pm EDT
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Don't ever mention Granton again! They are all sinners! I am glad that by GOD's grace I am not made to be like them:)

And frankly speaking, I rather be a gigaglo and sell myself off to a rich and hot chick then to work for Granton! Granton is a sinner, liar, scam... and all the leaders, executives plus whoever work there are all conman! Yeah! Even gigaglo and prositutes make more money then them!

STAY AWAY FROM GRANTON TODAY! STAY FWA FWA AWAY FROM THEM... AND COME CLOSER TO GOD:) AND BE RIGHTEOUS:) THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD!

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complgranton
, SG
Feb 10, 2011 2:14 pm EST

True true, I'm working now at Granton. It's my 4th day there at both Pantech & Hongkong st. They are weird in some ways, and they're hiding alot of things which I don't really like. Complaining behind my back to those " MANAGERS " . Like wtf? =.= I suddenly felt that all the managers are cheating me after I saw this thread. And I seriously don't feel good if this is a scam company, that sells fake promotions. And fake information. Oh, saying about " going on to the field " one of the leader who actually took me out, gaves me an f***ing attitude when I wanted to have my lunch. It's like f***ing 3pm. And alot alot more. Can't really understand what they are up to -.- really lame though. Regret joining this. When they offering take home $70-$100 per day -.- " HA HA ? " LOL. When i'm only taking home $30 per day. f***ed up.

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