World Poker Tour (WPT) review: Shady 68

"Never lose money playing poker guaranteed." That is the slogan. (Scoffs) But after the 14 day free trial, they will keep trying to withdraw money from my account. If I try to call to make payment arrangements, I'm left on hold for hours. (Even in the middle of the day!) The account can have a negative balance, and they will try to withdraw every 48 hours. I'm not here to bash, I like the site, but unauthorized transactions look shady. Period.

Website is riddled with bots and bad beat flops. You'll lose 90% win rate hands to garbage bot all-in calls 7/10 times. You'll know they're bots because you can't play at the same table with a friend on the same satellite game but you'll see the same screen names sit at your table over and over again. You'll be dealt the exact same junk hands like 2-9os four to five times in the same game then when you fold ittl drop the exact cards you needed on the flop almost every time. You'll get all the way to a final table and 1st place is impossible since you'll go head to head with an obvious bot. Don't waste your money this isn't poker it's a slot machine.

I have to admit, I have never seen any site where you can be ahead on the flop and the turn, and lose 90% or more of the time on the river. Quite literally over 90% of the time, I am way ahead on the river on a huge pot and a miracle card arrives. I spent some time going through the hands, and the larger the pot, the more likely I have lost on a crazy two outer. And I am giving them credit for a two outer, as you don't know what everyone else had. I am a diamond member, and will be canceling the membership this week. You cannot win if you play well here. Somehow, the worse a player reacts to a situation, the more they are rewarded on the river. I've really never seen anything like it. And I have been playing online since Moneymaker won the WSOP, however long that is. Beats are a part of poker, and I know there is no way to quantify the percentage of expected losses. But I know if has to be in the single digits or very low double digits. This site is upside down in that regard.

I have gotten to the point of expecting to lose as I did a minute ago. Flopped a full house, while in third place in tournament. Had tournament leader all in (had me covered by less than 500 chips and we both had over 30,000 chips, it was that close) and the fourth place came all in as well by the turn. River hits and higher full house comes as scheduled. On a legit site or in a card room, that's going to happen on occasion. But on this site I realized I was doomed as soon as I got both of them all in, when I had the best of it.

Stay AWAY!

This is the most rigged, dumbest [censored]ing poker site of all time!

played a single table 1100 pc made it to the last two i had 13460 chips he had 40 the blinds put him all-in 12 times and he won every hand then doubled up on the 13 hand and then took me out on the 14th hand im sure he is still bragging about that unbelievable win this was so outrageous i would not believe it myself if it didnt happen to me. the guy that wrote this article has my exact thoughts sure if they give bad players a win the site makes more money and thats what it is all about.

I began documenting the strange problems with wpt poker site.
Despite the misleading click-bait of being able to "chat and play poker with friends", you will do neither (it's just not possible so the relationship starts out as a lie right from the start).
Also I began taking screenshots and did not alter the images showing the fakery here: https://springfieldohiopost.com/media/wpt/world-poker-tour.html

You will lose in the worst kind of way with wpt (whereas I can play "expert" level on other poker sites, wpt is clearly a bad program with a logarithm that will leave you walking away as a loser time and time again).
For evidence, go to your browser and search for "wpt review" (read it and weep...we can't all be lying).

if you complain obout the games the give you a hand that has a 98% chance of winning, then the gie a weak hand running cards for the win. they rig the games

The poker site has been reviewed for a long time as a "bad beat heaven" for poor players. I have been playing the free Blackjack site for months, and logged the site getting over 35% blackjacks during my play. EVERYONE knows that is waaaayy outside expected odds of dealer getting blackjack. Fortunately it's free!

Clubwpt is worse that sites like Zynga. I don't do the monthly subscription so I don't know what would happen if I payed, but I have received a bad beat every time I go all in. It doesn't matter - pre-flop, flop, turn, and river. It's so bad, started charting my cards and found that 173 out of 177 times I was ahead prior to the river only to get beat by a river. Their commercials talk about an all -in fest at other sites. Well they should say if you don't pay, you lose.

Daniel Negreanu is not genius, just an inside player, did you ever asked yourself why camera had access to your cards?
Have you ever heard of poker etiquette?
One player per cards
He, Daniel as jew had all your cards visible..

Clubwpt has given me so many bad beats. one 9 person sit and go I got q, 3 10 times. what are the odds of that. the bad beats are so unreal, to the point where I feel it is just downright cheating. lol

I am SOOO glad I found this site, and now know that my "LUCK" hasn't suddenly gone unbelievably bad! At this point, I'll just say a HUGE THANK YOU to Shady and all that have shared their experiences here. I'm on my 3rd day of my 14 day trial, thinking this would be good practice for a WSOP qualifying event I'm playing in at the end of this month. The beats I have experienced totally defy any "LOGIC" I know of in the 50 years I've been playing. It all makes perfect sense now. I will be cancelling my trial, and hoping I don't have the same problems that others have encountered.

did I win anything on 100, 000 monthly pay

how do I find out if I have won anything of 100000 monthy pay

It is like operating a cockroach motel - players can come in, can never get out! I thought I signed out the charging VIP feature - the website has a cancellation button. Thought that should be it. But they just keep charging the monthly fees on my credit card for several months now. Now I am gonna fight it for refund!

You need better programmers and developers as well as tech crew. Too many glitches. Also, a place on site to contact support would be great and make players feel more connected with WPT instead alone with nothing in settings or account to readily contact support. Just very disappointing with these new changes of adding a video to watch or have it playing where one cant even shut it off, senseless data hogging.

While I do agree that bad beats seem to happen more often than in a live game also know that I have been on the winning side of those bad beats. I have collected winning many times...usually 2-3 weeks...with no problem. When there were technical difficulties during a tournament and I complained, I was given back my entry and often additional points. But the real benefit of ClubWPT...for me...is the opportunity to play for entry into live tournaments. Sure...this site isn't perfect. But if you live in a state without casinos and want to play for cash where there is some skin in the game, there really aren't many options. So for me the technical assistance has been responsive, I have always received my requested payout in a few weeks and I'm looking forward to the next big tourney.

Every time I get involved in a s&g game it seems that they rig the site to have me lose the site. It starts to blink and flash and I can't bet or fold . Then I am an automatic loser. Why is tis happening? I'm thinking of dropping WPT also. Why pay to be cheated!

So I sent a note asking to see a list of "real" players that have won money... they still have yet to respond.. one week later. I think they have bots set up to win so they never have to pay out.

Have received multiple small winnings easily and within a month after the pending window. There are so many bad beats that it does get frustrating although it does seem to hit everyone. I myself have played horrible due to either being too tired or personal events in the home and have sucked out. I have also tried playing real poker hands and due to nothing to lose everyone calls and many times the ridiculous does win. I am sure if the same people won the large events, or in the top finishest in the smaller tournaments there would be a huge uproar on social media. WPT's software does need to be upgraded, which they tell me is currently being addressed. I do not think they would risk the backlash by using computer generated players or compensate others. It just doesn't seem like it would be worth the risk. I say look at the site as a inexpensive recreational tool that you can utilize at home 24/7. It is really affordable and you can actually enjoy playing and as a bonus win sometimes-just don't take it seriously. With nothing to lose because there is always another game waiting and your membership fee has paid the entries into them, you will not see premium play as you would at a cash game-duh! Lighten up and think about it. It's like 24.95 a month, 24/7 games and prizes too. I am not immune to the irritation of bad beat and many were hard to take, but I can also recognize the difference in an entertainment site and a cash site. I can rarely afford to lose much, although I love the adrenaline rush of real cash table games, even on-line. I can play whenever and as much as I want at Club WPT and not lose sleep over the games I lose. I would love to see on-line real cash poker legalized in all states, but also enjoy sites like Club WPT for the quantity of play for recreation.

well if nobody new here sum news for you i agree with all the crap said about club wpt and worst of all they change their bank every month so they dont have to pay the goverment what is due to them

i need the over payment money to pay my bill, s.

i, have a problem, my ac. has been charred for a year, and it be monthly payment.please return this over payment..sam W. Keffer174 keffer rd Dawson Pa 15428

Club WPT is a membership site that claims "you never will lose money playing poker." That is not entirely true since you pay a monthly fee to play there. And here is my question...if they do not always give away prizes they use to attract players to the site how exactly do you win?

Here is proof - I have been a paying member of Club WPT for nearly 3 years. In that time I have won money, which has strict collection rules associated with it and I have been forced to forfeit substantial sums due to unreasonable technicalities, which I eventually forgave. Next was some very questionable play. I agree that some players do not have any idea how to play poker and they make some very dumb moves that payoff. That is just dumb luck. But then there are players that frequently play low percentage hands in any position that ultimately payoff on their long odds with amazing frequency. Dare I say, like they knew from the start their hand would win... which makes one as the question...could the site have automated players (bots) that play for the site and win back cash and prizes for the "house." And finally here is what happened today (11/29/2015) A major multi-prize tournament was scheduled to begin today at 1 PM PST. As a paying customer you would think I would earn enough points daily to play this event, but I had to spend Saturday evening playing multiple events to earn enough points to enter this event, but I was successful. I entered the event prior to the start and waited. The start time came and went with no message or notification from the site administration. After a long wait I finally gave up and left the event lobby and discovered that tournament lobby had been removed from the site, effectively cancelling the event. Later on I discovered an email in my inbox explaining that the site had refunded my entry points. There was no mention of the event being rescheduled or played at a future date so I went back to watching football.
A couple hours later I noticed my laptop had loaded a poker table for tournament I had not entered and the label on the table window was LAPC Pkg. I am aware of a promotion ClubWPT was running for a live poker event in Los Angeles, but I knew there were no scheduled satellites on Sunday, so I brought up the tournament lobby to get additional information. The tournament was called the Sunday Spectacular which was scheduled to be played earlier at 1 PM PST. It was 3:25 PM PST and there had been no notification or indication on the poker site of any change and the cash and prizes to be awarded had been changed to a relatively small number of points which have no cash value. I went along with it, but it was clear something was wrong. There were long delays, most tables only had 1 or 2 players and once the only player and I at the table we were playing at eliminated the other players at our table our play just stopped FOR MORE THAN A HALF AN HOUR. I sat there and chatted in the chat window with the other player at my table and we concluded that this was just a big meaningless mix up. After a long delay play resumed and by then I had lost interest in playing in this terrible joke for an end of the month contest and basically made a stand with a lousy hand to be taken out. But it gets better, 20 minutes after I closed the Club WPT software I saw a new email from the site in my inbox stating that the Sunday Spectacular had been rescheduled and would start at 3:30 PM. The time stamp on that message was 12 minutes prior to the new start time. No small wonder why less than 25% of the original participants were present for this new time. A complete and utter joke on all participants, and those unfortunate enough to have wasted their weekend on this unprofessional mess.

My advice, don't waste your time and money on this train wreck called ClubWPT. The time and money I wasted on them the past 2+ years I will never get back and would have been better spent doing anything but play there!

Well Im glad to find something like this. After playing on clubwpt for few weeks, here's my thought; stay away from it as fast as you can before you waste not only your money but most importantly your time and the faith in poker. I'm not a pro tournament player, but I have played mid-high stakes poker most of the time and my winning proves that I'm not that bad when it comes to Poker. The reason for me to start playing on clubwpt was to gain the tournament experience and improve my skills. We all have our AA, KK being cracked and your full house is running against high full houses in real life games everyday. I believe these are just part of the game and move on. However, what I don't really understand is that you are going to play against players who call pre flop all-in at the final table with A7 suited and hit the flush on the river, yet the player does it over and over and somehow he or she can see what cards are coming. You will encounter against these types of players and you will see them making donks move and able to chomp down your stack. five diamonds, chimmey, luckelady, tezee, and many others who play like trash and be able to get away with it almost most of the time whenever i'm playing against them. First few days on my trial period, I was able to win some small cash from 20 dollars or 50 dollars tournament without a huge effort; however, after two days I wasn't able to win a single real money. My play style was the same and the funny part is that one of my non experienced poker friend, she just learned the poker, was experience the same thing. She was able to win few small cash tournament in the beginning of her subscription but after few days she wasn't even able to get to the final table on the same game she won the prize with. I'm canceling my membership today, but I really hope this scam website goes down in any way possible.

The problem with this site is very simple. More then half the site is house players or bought from somewhere else playing there. This makes it very difficult for a real player there to compete. Sure they sometimes let the legit player win some money. That way they keep paying to play there. Free it says huh? Yea i dont think so. Then you get to see how hard it is to cash out anything you have won there. Scam/beware, they will try to get any personal information they can and then sell it somewhere. I was playing there today for most likely the last time and have a preety good idea of quite a few of their house or bought players now. here's a few for ya. Qns4me, cardshark944, chimmey, i love rags, five diamonds. If you watch these players closely they'll give you the clues you need. Heck the cheap phony site didn't want to give the watch away, so they let the shark win it. Probably got a bonus on his or her salary from the site. Well hopefully the feds or state gets wind of this bogus place sometime soon and shuts them down for this collusion realated crap like they have the other poker sites. Shame on you Mikw Sexton if you are a part of this.

as well i can agree with any negative post there has been. all the above exists at this bovada style site. the worst part is that you pay good money to play fake yes fake poker. i have played at many poker sites and have never seen such pathetic play as at wpt. i thought bingo was for a bingo hall. i thought a donkey meant a mule. and there is no thing as a best hand here at wpt. when everything is rigged like it is here it's just a matter of if you're on the house player table. which will be 70% or more of the tables per tourney. they say the built the site from the ground floor up. key word is they not us. it's obvious that wpt feels that any real player playing there has nothing better to do so they can just decide when and how much to screw you but keep you playing and paying. i dont need examples cause any real poker player there has seen them all at one time or another. news flash wpt. all the non legit poker sites get shut down eventually.

you comments on April 12 post on the flush are off base. Simply put the 5 best cards are the hand that wins. Even in both players have an ace high flush the best 5 flush cards win. Similar to both playes having trips and the kicker playing.

WOW!
I'm shocked to see so many horrible post for club wpt...well, not really. I though it was me at first.
I was just googling "rigged poker" and decided to put in "clubwpt". I was totally shocked that the Great Poker show, that I loved, wanted to play in to be apart of it in Any way is actually rigging their site. It MUST be going well too bc they advertise it consistently. Even on the show after 2 clubwpt commercials.
Why do I believe club wpt being rigged to be true? I am not a pro or anything like that, but I am not an slow either and I've played poker since I was in high school in the '90s. Basically the same situation as the 1st post happened to me, but in spades (no pun intended) . Also "cmilton111" post is RIGHT ON. I have seen all that but most of all is what I'm about to mention
At first I played a tournament on clubwpt and won !st place and $10 bucks. The check came written to my "nickname" instead of the one on my actual credit card that I used to sign up with. Didn't think it would be a problem. Then the bank said it had to be the same as on the card.
After I get in touch with club wpt about it and have them change my first name to the one on my credit card in my account, I ask them to send me a new check. Guess what the reply was? "Well, since you're name is changed we can't do can't do that. But next time you win we will pay you."
I thought it was wrong, but I was new and didn't wanna get into it over $10 since I just won, I will win again...kinda...
After that, I started to see the most UNREAL bad beats and calls where it seemed as if the other players not only knew what cards where coming, but knew each other.
I started to bust out of the tournaments faster and faster as they would always have better hands. Then I actually cashed in 2nd place by playing the WORST HANDS EVER! Hands I would NEVER play in a live game or at all. I mean 7/2o to 2/2 all in and would beat KK or AA, and then get insulted by the very same players were JUST DOING THE SAME THING and winning. Then I bust them by doing what they are doing to me and they get mad.

I started to get pretty upset. I thought I must be as bad as they say after losing so many. I mean, "its WPT after all I thought" and since its not a gambling site, wink wink, that there wouldnt be collusion. I was so wrong its embarrassing. After cashing the check for $15, what happened next drove me crazy and, sadly, I am going to cancel my account bc of it.
Anyhow, after cashing it, ANY tournament I entered everyone was going all in, or would sit out. Players killing cards and letting a 2-3 ppl play against me, killing my hand by going all in. Then I get AA and they either fold quickly or just bet super small OR making his hand on the river which was now the norm...it was so silly.
THIS IS WHAT REALLY DID IT AND WHY I AM CANCELING CLUB WPT.
I not only have been busted by these players, but I get busted out of the tourneys with QUADS each time in each tournament that has prizes! This has happened at least 10-12 times. What are the odds of that happening? I mean, to be making quads is tough to do, then to get busted out (not just losing a pot), over and over again with a player hitting quads all the time. I mean ALL the time. This happening to me 10 times at least is pretty crazy.

From what i see online, it seems ( just my opinion) that club wpt is running a great "operation" in my opinion. They have you pay $20-25 a month, and say you can win $100, 000 in cash and prizes. Well, if the seats are the prizes, and the most is a 10k tourney--just do the math.

They did/are doing what Full TIlt Poker would have done if it were run by great "business people". Get you to pay and then say you "won" when you won nothing.
Lastly and MAINLY, I believe they give the big prizes to friends/workers who play and are contracted by another company to play on the site.
One player musta been too drunk and started telling me that everyone knows me and that they play against me. I asked if they shares whole cards and are colluding, expecting a sarcastic response...nope. He flat out told me they are colluding against me. Good news is I have documented ALL OF IT.
I sent club wpt an email with the screen shots. They sent an email back sounding like they are gonna fix it. Nothing has changed. I'm thinking of posting all my vids and snap shots just to show how online poker is over. Maybe poker in general is over. Well, its not over. It's just gone back to the "Rounders" days.

My conclusion is that online / casino poker is now become the new bingo or slots. If you wanna play good poker you gotta go and know Good private games.
"Good" being the KEYWORD.

I am really sad that my favorite game is just a slot machine game now. Since they have prop and shill (sp) players, casinos are not even fun to play in. You can spot these players, AND DEALERS, doing the most obvious mechanic crap and if you call the floor man, they always act like they have no idea what you mean or that its normal.

FYI: when I opened it, It was to watch the videos mainly (I barely played) bc of how much of a WPT fan I was...not am, was. It is just hard to watch when you Know they rig their own site. When I see crazy bad beats on TV now or see Vince and Mike act like it was so crazy that some player they are are rooting for win in some crazy way. It really is like the WWE now. ANYONE could tell would win, won. It seems like they pick and choose who is gonna win on the show. I am truly starting to believe that.

I am happy I got some closure, but sad that is for poker and club wpt. Those "pros" really screwed the game up bad...

Follow up to my earlier complain on Annual Membership fee Charged: After further pursuing this complaint of annual membership charge, ClubWPT has reconsidered, and accepted my proposal to prorate and charge me only for a month Membership Fee ($20/-), and they said they would to place a refund request for the balance $214.45. I believe this was an amicable settlement all things considered and I thought In fairness to Club WPT I should put this on record.