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Brown Bag Parties Complaints - Unethical Business Practices

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Brown Bag Parties

Posted: 2009-11-03 by   EX-BBP REP
Unethical Business Practices
Complaint Rating:  56 % with 16 votes
Company information:
Brown Bag Parties
California
United States
brownbagparty.com

I had been a Consultant for Brown Bag Parties for 4 months. In that 4 months, I had seen the most unethical, manipulative and decieving behavior. At first, everything seemed great. Everyone was nice to me and I was trying to make friends. After the first 3-4 weeks, I was being told how to increase my business by stealing from other Companies and Consultants. The leaders of this so called company had been spending so much time trying to steal from thier competitors that it became like a "cult". When one person was called out for her unethical behavior, she called upon her team members for help. They all ganged up and made a plan of attack. Thier attack consisted of attempting to steal any business tools, team members and customers from this particular person or group associated with a competitor company.

As time went by, I was taught more and more how to lie and steal from others instead of learning how to build a business correctly. What shocks me is that everyone seemed to think that this type of behavior was acceptable. When I tried to bring in reason and be honest about my feelings, I was told that I didn't understand how this business works. That is when I decided that it was time to leave. I have since found a new company that does not behave this way and I feel so grateful to be rid of Brown Bag Parties.

I want to issue a warning to anyone considering doing business or joining Brown Bag Party... stay away unless you want to be eaten alive!
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 17 days ago by   Romance Rep -2 Votes
I, too, was a consultant for this company. They are EXTREMELY unethical. They DO train their consultants how to take from other businesses and companies. They are nothing but a pyramid scheme. You have to pay $30 a month just to place an order to make money for them?? And there is ONE person at the top, ONLY one and nobody else can even match her level. EVERYONE in the company is under her, and she's not an owner or anything. And that top person? She does NOTHING. Nothing at all. No Parties, no training, she just sits on her computer all day trying to target other company's consultants to tell them how horrible the other companies are and why they should abandon their honest business to join Brown Bag Party. That would be like having Coke employees hanging out at the Pepsi plant to tell them that Pepsi sucks. Ridiculous.

You pay $30 a month to have access to place orders... and you get a "shopping" site for your customers. The shopping sites look like someone is browsing my personal computer, complete with the little plus signs to expand on product subtitles. People are paying $360 a year for THAT?! My 5 year old niece could make a nicer website. And let's say that someone shops on your consultant site, gets up to go to the bathroom, comes back to finish shopping and orders... during that time when the person went to the bathroom, it was "idle" and the system automatically kicks the order to Corporate. Nice, real nice.

They "vacate" accounts (meaning they terminate you, and if you have a team, the person above you inherits them and then gets paid on your work). Any consultants who are running ethical businesses and are more popular than the one top person, it's like one day they are here, the next day they are gone. I thought this was a business, not a popularity contest. Anyone in their company who actually works the business and does it honestly, they find a reason to fire them. They also have had a HUGE turnover. In 5 years, the one top person is around 103 for a consultant number. Now they have gone through over 20, 000 consultants and there are only maybe 1000 currently with the company. That's a HUGE HUGE HUGE turnover. That's never a good sign in any business.

Their products are outdated closeouts from other companies, so we're talking seconds, irregulars, and products outdated by 10 years or more. Seriously. The quality is horrible and the prices are WAY too high. They offer "20% hostess rewards", but really, you get just as much with 10% hostess rewards with other companies because the prices are SO MUCH lower. I mean, come on, $37 for a lubricant, really? Companies in the same industry sell similar products in a larger bottle for less than half that price.

The company should be called Brown Bag Rip Off. But don't dare question it, they will fire you, take your business and hand it up to your sponsor, and remember, the sponsor at the top does NOTHING. All your hard work will pay the person above you when they realize you're not a sneaky, conniving, dirty liar like they are. You won't get anywhere with them - trust me, I know. I'm now with a different company and I actually make money- Eureka! I'm building an honest business, and instead of terminating me, the company I'm with now actually rewards me!

Stay as FAR away from Brown Bag Party as you can. They are awful, they are completely dishonest and unethical, and quite frankly, they are some of the rudest people I have ever known. I always try to find the best in everything, but their best is still below normal standards for business ethics.
 17 days ago by   exbbpaswell -2 Votes
I as well was treated this way!! They stole my files from another company and proceeded to claim and present them at bootcamp as their own, I called them out on it and what do you know VACATED/TERMINATED whatever!! They are a bunch of hyprocrits. I would never recommend this company to anyone...!!
The owner decided to email my team and disclose these bogus reasons for my release, EXCUSE ME...but the law states you can not tell anyone why you were fired, quit or whatever the reason may be. I am looking for a lawyer to help me now!! I am going to post everything!!
 16 days ago by   BBP Victim -2 Votes
Wow! I am so happy to see these complaints! I was not a member of Brown Bag, but I am a victim of Brown Bag!

The Brown Bag Consultants seem to gang up and find Romance Reps with a competitor company and BAM! They solicit all your team members by promising them a better business, more money and more tools. This is considered UNETHICAL! Solicting is a manipulative way of growing your business because you are too lazy to recruit fresh people and train them. It is pure laziness! I mean why would you recruit fresh people and train them how to run a business...when you can just STEAL full trained reps from other hardworking team leaders! I lost some incredible women from my team who I loved dearly and supported for years! It was truly a heartache for me to watch these ladies leave. What upset me the most was watching them become manipulative and unethical business people as soon as they walked in Brown Bag Parties doors! All that time I spent teaching these women the correct way to run a business was quickly washed away by the dirty ethics this company has.
 16 days ago by   justanotherexBBPrep -2 Votes
I am also very happy to see these complaints! I am an ex consultant and I agree with what EVERYONE has said here about the company being unethical, conniving, and sneaky. My sponsor once told me that she had a list of people she was going to email with business information. She knew that some of the people were with another company. She said that she would cover herself by saying, "if you are with another company, please disregard this email, " in the beginning. She knew she was soliciting and she didn't care. They definitely teach their consultants how to steal other companies' reps and it's sickening.

I have also seen women get fired for doing nothing wrong. They started becoming successful in the business and they were doing it HONESTLY so they got terminated.

I also agree with the product line being over-priced and junk. There is next to no selection and the selection they do have is definitely of horrible quality.

I am currently with another company. I would never, ever recommend Brown Bag Party to anyone. Stay far away from this company.
 15 days ago by   BBPinc +2 Votes
Dear Readers,

Funny how all the negative comments were posted by account holders who all created their accounts on November 3rd.

What's also funny about these posts are they don't mention who they are, so others can't contact them to discuss.

Lastly, a consultant recently removed for 3 policy violations is probably the one posting all of these.

If anyone would like to learn the TRUTH about Brown Bag Party, please call the corporate office directly toll-free at 866-849-4697
and hit extension #6.

I would love to dispel these obvious attempts to badmouth our company.

Regards,

Peter Palmiotto
CEO - Brown Bag Party
 15 days ago by   Romance Rep +1 Votes
What's funny that the "CEO" has time to read 5 total posts on a random website, AND RESPOND. Funny how you just proved that the people at the top of your company do NOTHING but sit and surf the web all day.

Perhaps you should be examining what your consultants are REALLY doing instead of trying to attack people that your company has already made victims. For such a "leading" company, it's funny you'd even have time to discuss anything with anyone who USED to work for your company until you got rid of them. And the ones who get fired from your company are always the people who call the spade, a spade. That's who vanishes without any explanation other than that they are "in violation". Violation of what, "the code"? Isn't it against "the code" to be unethical? But wait, let's examine your company's "transfer plan": Isn't offering a "transfer plan" where the consultant can join your company AND still be with their former company for 10 days "unethical"? Didn't one of your consultants just LOSE that lawsuit with her former company because she was following your so-called "code" and was with both companies at the same time? Hmmmmm... Kind of hard to follow any kind of "code of conduct" when the ones who wrote it are the biggest culprits of "unethical" behavior.

And furthermore, why would anyone want to call YOU, the OWNER of YOUR COMPANY so you can brag about how fabulous it is, when in actuality, it's sad that your company has perhaps one of the highest turnovers in consultants. Over 20, 000 consultant numbers are out there now, and lo and behold, you had what, about 40 consultants total come to your convention? Let's not forget the fabulous training "Boot Camp" that doesn't have more than about 50 people in attendance and is always held in THE most remote locations, and it's always infested with bugs and critters. But I'm sure you'd have an excuse for that as well. Let me guess, the $250+ that people have to pay to register that would be increased if you held your trainings in decent quarters, right?

And it's not a coincidence that accounts were created on November 3rd. It took that long for ONE PERSON to speak out about your company's nonsense. Word spreads online quickly among the romance reps... just ask your "top" consultant who probably spends about 18 hours a day glued to a computer, trying to coerce other company's reps to join her team. What's it to you if 5 people complained about your company? And 4 of these being people you got rid of? Are you that high on your horse that 5 individuals cannot speak their mind and list all the things that are wrong with your company without you trying to sugar coat everything as usual?

Please. Go back to work, and train your consultants how to be HONEST. Go ahead, lead by example for a change. Seriously. Don't you have better things to do, like teach your own consultants how NOT to scam and scheme and target other company's reps?
 15 days ago by   Romance Rep -1 Votes
OK, I forgot to put this in the previous post, but why WOULD anyone post their name on an ANONYMOUS MESSAGE BOARD? The whole point is anonymity. Why do you want to know who has what to say, do you want to put out another fake press release stating that you want to sue them next since your supposed countersuit against another company never happened?? And you want to know the truth about those "posts"??? The girl who sent those messages to your consultants GOT THAT EMAIL WORD FOR WORD FROM ONE OF YOUR REPS.

How you like THEM apples.
 15 days ago by   Melanie Leaseburg In The House 0 Votes
Hi. This is Melanie Leaseburg. I was terminated on March 10th, 2009 by Peter's wife, Kimberly Palmiotto. I got a phone call at roughly 4pm that Tuesday afternoon in which she told me they had received a number of complaints about me from fellow consultants. When I asked what was the nature of said complaints, I was told that she couldn't discuss it due to "privacy reasons".

Back stepping... Peter Palmiotto called me on February 10th, 2009 to discuss with me the following: He started the conversation by telling me that he's been getting good feedback on the training calls that I did for his entire company, in which I specifically step by step outlined how to do specific things to increase your business. (And to the best of my knowledge through hear-say, those recorded phone calls are still on your consultant back office, right Peter?? You're still using my training calls as a resource for your consultants, and I see the graphic design Diva logo girls with the holiday attire all over the internet. Yes, those were thanks to my creativity as well.) That's how the conversation started... and then Peter said that he's also been getting calls about me being negative amongst fellow consultants. I do believe an exact quote is, "It wasn't really a complaint, more of a concern."

Now. I'm not exactly sure how I could have possibly been "negative" about this company when I was selling a lot every month. And I was recruiting every month. And I was training people. And I continue to get requests from brand new Brown Bag Party consultants for me to train them. I had one ask me if she could shadow my party, even though I moved on to another company. That was about 3 weeks ago when I got that email.

So the fact that nobody could spell out the "complaints" to me and they couldn't discuss it due to "privacy reasons", that tells me that either A) there were no complaints, B) the complaints were fabricated and I could have adequately disputed them, or C) When I pointed out to Peter some of the things that OTHER CONSULTANTS had pointed out to ME, he realized that a lot of consultants did contact me on a regular basis for coaching, training and help. Heaven forbid I spill the beans that he knew of the unethical practices going on and did nothing about it. So hey, let's get rid of Melanie since she's an honest business person who speaks her mind.

One example of what I personally brought to Peter's attention on February 10th was his ASPCA award going to the same person who buys hearts to give to her downline as prizes, so why would her downline buy any hearts if they are getting cases of them for free?? Another thing I pointed out was how there were people who did nothing but "buy in" to receive their override check. Oddly enough, that came up in a previous post on this board! What's amusing to me is that Peter himself told me that I'd be happy with changes he was announcing at convention. Well, I never made it to convention, thanks to the fact that I was booted out.

By the way, what ever happened to Brandy Caudel I think her name was? She was fired, too. She was a $100, 000 a year seller for another company, she was on a training call talking about new items in October 2008, and by November, she had been fired. (Word to the wise, don't accept the offer to talk on the training calls... here's 2 for 2 on training then being fired. LOL)

Really. How could anyone ever even possibly say that I am a negative person? Stressed out at the time, absolutely. My husband was in and out of the hospital (over 15 surgeries, I lost count at this point), I was taking care of both of our children, teaching dance classes 2 nights a week, working my business with parties the other nights of the week, and waiting on my husband hand and foot when he wasn't in the hospital. My family depends on MY income to eat. Why would I ever do anything to jeopardize my income and my business? So who "complained"? I can probably list off 5 people off the top of my head that would have "complained" about me simply because what I had noticed and brought to Peter's attention would have lost them their "crown" in the eyes of fellow consultants. It's not a business, it's a popularity contest. And I never tried to be popular, I tried to help anyone I could. (Which... by the way... all I did in helping others was make more money for their upline. So what's the problem?)

I never said I was in business to make friends. I have always been in business to make money. At the time, when I was terminated, I felt devastated. I had 18 hostesses scheduled for the next 6 weeks. So I had to either throw in the towel, or find another company quickly so I could continue working. I called a good friend of mine who is with Pure Romance and said, "I need a new company to represent. How quickly can I get a kit?" And thus began my new career. And to date, I have over $46, 000 personal sales with Pure Romance. From mid-March to today, I went over and above and way beyond what I was ever able to do with Brown Bag Party. How much of that is "stock on my shelf"? Right now, I have roughly $2000 worth of products. Wow, now that I think of it, in less than 8 months, I have almost matched what Brown Bag's top sales consultant sold the entire calendar year of 2008! And I still have two more months to go!

So here I am, Melanie Leaseburg, putting it out there to the public. This is what happened to me with Brown Bag Party. Isn't it funny, here's my name. And I have dates, times, everything from conversations. (I still think it's pretty doggone funny that I was "so bad" they had to get rid of me, but they still use my training materials on their consultant site, 8 months later. HAHAHAHAHA I'm sorry for laughing, that's just plain sad!)
 15 days ago by   EX-BBP REP 0 Votes
I am the one who started this thread. Then I sent it out on my Facebook account for all to see and requested anyone else that had a negative experience to please comment or respond. I also emailed this link out to many reps I have met with different companies, because I wanted the message out there! I felt it was important to get the message out how obsessed BBP Reps are with the competition, which stems directly from you Peter.

Everything you do or say has to do with "beating" the competition! You are the reason your people behave this way. You lead by example and those sad ladies follow you into the pit of dishonesty and immoral ethics. BBP's own twitter account is valid proof how obsessed you are with the competition and gaining thier people. When the time comes that Brown Bag falls, oh and it will sweetie- these girls will not survive in a real company!

Peter, you have also solicited reps from other companies yourself. You have no talent, so you search and steal those that do. You can attempt to deny these claims if you like, but we all know the truth. You allow your reps to think that this is acceptable behavior to solicit from competitors. While you giggle because Pure Romance, Passion Parties etc. loses it's people becuase you think they are a big company and it won't hurt them- you did not consider how many team leaders lost serious money. What about those people, Peter? Some of those women had trouble paying thier mortgages, some of them had to go back to work full time and put thier kids in daycare to make up the difference in thier personal budgets. And you giggle, as your trolls steal reps. You are a very sad human being.

Why is it you need to know WHO wrote these reviews on your company? Because, you have no control over them and you need to find a way to shut us up? How would you do that, Peter? Oh, I know. You will file lawsuits to claim Slander and Libel, then you will tell your favorite unethical trolls who we are and have them follow us all over the internet to make our lives miserable.

I would also like to comment on your turnover, if these reviews of BBP were not true-please tell us why so many people have walked in BBP doors and walked right back out. The truth is, BBP is not as it appears to be from the outside. Your consistant need to keep changing your consultant benefits to keep attempting to beat the competitors because BBP has nothing BUT that program to get people in the door. It upsets you that people would rather go to another company and make LESS money than to deal with your cult like company. I see the desperation, Peter. It's clear and right here in writing. www.joinbrownbagparty.com - WE WANT YOU BACK! How desperate is it? You are willing to lose money these ex reps owe you just to get them back in the door! Is business THAT bad? $40 to start back up in your slimy company! Pure Desperation, Peter.

What did you think would happen when you posted here? That you could be the big bad wolf and shut down the complaints? Well, sorry to say that you need to do some research because people are bitchin' all over the net. It has come time for you to get an attorney in your office to explain to you the ethical business practices that will keep BBP and it's reps out of the court houses, because NOBODY is going to let this continue anymore. The competitors are pissed, they have had enough, and you and your trolls will go down! You need to break the cycle or you will find yourself in serious trouble. I beleive a training is in order! Who wants to explain the difference between Advertising & Soliciting to Mr. Palmiotto?


Lastly, you don't need to know who is making the complaints, becuase your not even considering assisting these people who are angry. You are not interested in making things right, Peter. All your interested in, is revenge. Why don't you use that energy to fix the issues within your company and maybe consider working with the Better Business Bureau with that big ol' D RATING you have earned yourself. You may have convinced yourself and some of your people that BBP is "god", but you haven't fooled the world. Brown Bag Party is the trailer park trash of the industry, and you are like the redneck Mayor.
 15 days ago by   Melanie Leaseburg In The House 0 Votes
Interesting that it came out on here about the online stalking. I just explained to an Advisory Board member why I created a 2nd Facebook account and deleted all BBP reps from my regularly used Facebook account. I was, and still am, being stalked online. Yes, STALKED. Every move I make, every advertisement I place, every friend I add on a networking site is monitored. Incidentally, I run an honest business and I work very hard to build and maintain my business. I do not have time to "steal friends". And it's absolutely ridiculous and childish for one of your consultants to tell other BBP consultants NOT to be friends with me on social networking sites because it likes me to HER, and she's losing friends over it??? Hi, I'm going to be 31 years old. I hated high school when I was in it, and I certainly have no desire to relive the "I can't be friends with you because you're friends with her" mentality. Can we grow up here, just a little bit?

I have seen it time and time again, my advertisements are "borrowed", which by the way is a violation of intellectual property rights to plagiarize other people's written work. Isn't it funny that there are still ads being posted NOW that list information that was outdated before I was even terminated. Here's a prime example, and I'll put my comments in [brackets]:


I am excited to announce several new things happening with Brown Bag Party, and the awesome offers just for you.

As a representative, you don't have to lug the store around, just carry your business kit and a smile. Brown Bag Party pays 50% commission, no matter what kit you earn/purchase. Company Paid Hostess Program. Sales Bonus. Trip Incentives. You're qualified from day one, no quotas or qualification periods. Vestment Program - YES, you can retire. And so much more.

[I'm going to interject here to point out that it's 50% commission on MOST items, 40% on lingerie and selected items at BBP's descretion. One trip incentive does not give reason for that word to be pluralized. No quotas... as long as you're willing to pay $29.95 a month for access to log in and place your orders. No qualification periods... unless you earn a kit. If you earn a kit, you have to pay $29.95 for three continuous months so that you get your money back on that kit. I'm curious, how many consultants are vested? Just one, right? ]

Brown Bag Party has a GENEROUS Hostess plan and extra incentives. Our hostesses can earn 20% in of the party sales in FREE product with a qualifying party of $250 or more. This is one of the highest paying hostess rewards program in our industry and is entirely company paid. You can also offer half priced items for their party sales and bookings. Our Hostesses can even earn Vacation Vouchers for airfare or hotel. These great incentives will make them want to have a party with you.

[The vacation vouchers... really, are they worth it? Not really. To get the buy-1-get-1-airfare, you pay full price for the ticket. 99% of the time, you can get bargain airfare online and pay less for 2 seats than you would paying for the buy-1-get-1 with those vouchers. Consultants can offer 50% off items for party sales and bookings - well, ain't that something to advertise, considering that consultants are at a 50% buying discount? Every single company out there offers the same thing. 20% hostess rewards, really? I never had a $1000 party with Brown Bag Party. Since being with Pure Romance, I am averaging about 3 a month now. Party sales are not as high with your company because you're overcharging for poor quality, and consumers aren't stupid. So 20% sounds great, but 20% of nothing is still ... nothing.]

Share the opportunity & Teach Others to Do What You Do

~ 50% commission on your personal retail sales no matter what kit you start out with!
~ 5% commission on all your personally sponsored recruit's retail sales down three levels. [Gee, aren't there new requirements? My contacts still with your company told me what pay cuts they took because you aren't paying 5% on 3 levels until they reach a specific level themselves as the sponsor.]
~ 6 levels of Downline Commissions for those who want to recruit, we offer override commissions down 6 levels and commission roll-up through infinity. [ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? The Roll-Up to Infinity nonsense that nobody could ever adequately explain to me was discontinued at Boot Camp in September 2008. We're now in November 2009, and your consultants are STILL advertising this? Who's unethical now making false promises in their advertisements?]
~ Car bonus - Hit this bonus and BBP will pay your car payment every month you qualify, up to $600/mo. [Didn't this change 2 months ago, too?]
~ No Quotas/No Territories - your customers can be nationwide. [Name me one company in home party sales that still has territories. Oh and by the way, don't DARE recruit someone from another consultant's home town without seeing the claws come out. I learned that one the hard way first hand.]
~ Sales Bonuses - Earn up to 5% more on your monthly sales. [What's the minimum to achieve this one?]
~ Take Credit Cards- we can process your customer's cards for you. [Just make sure the system doesn't glitch and double charge a customer's card because I remember all too well how consultants were told to give CASH back to their customers so that you didn't have to reverse charges. I do believe that was your customer service department consisting of 1 person at the time.]
~ Direct to Customer Shipping - we are one of the few companies that offers a direct-to-customer shipping option. This means you never have to sort, pack, ship, or deliver merchandise.

[Do we really want to list how many customers of mine received the wrong items? One customer ordered Gold Dust and Hearts of Fire, or as the rest of the romance world knows it, a hot heart. She had her box delivered to her work. In effort to show co-workers how she was able to buy something mild at a party, she opened her box with an audience. In her box were bondage items - handcuffs, whip, blindfold. Nice. Another customer of mine ordered something called Beehive. She got Beads of Pleasure, an anal toy. Another customer returned about 4 of the same toy, and your customer service claimed there was nothing wrong with it. It didn't work, it was junk, and after the 4th toy exchanged, a customer service person told me it has to be user error. So that customer was out of a toy AND her money, since you don't offer refunds. I'll gladly have everything sent to me and pack'n'ship my own orders, thank you very much. At least if I do it, I know it's right.]
~ 10% Matching Bonus- earn even more as you grow your team.

Wanna get your kit for FREE? Host a party or do a catalog show and use your hostess credits towards the purchase of your kit.Already with another company? Switch to Brown Bag Party and receive a kit valued at over $600 for only $89. [Since when is the $585 retail valued kit "over $600"? And I'm sorry, but it's broken down in the price of the kit to include the $29.95 fee, so where is that a bargain?]

Join today for only $99! You will receive at kit valued at over $650!! Start now and have a debt free holiday!Dont wait and kick yourself in January paying off those credit cards! [Now the kit is valued over $650??? What's up with that?]

Contact me today and I'll help you get started with support from the best team in the company - no matter where you are located! [Hello, there is only ONE TEAM in the company. Remember, only ONE consultant is directly under the corporate office, and the entire company is under her.]


In light of this advertisement that was posted online within the past week, can you now see where the general intelligent public would be saying how unethical your company's representatives are?

Additionally, the whole Pole Party concept... I went through hours upon hours of training and testing to become a certified dance instructor in ballet, tap, jazz, acrobatics, gymnastics, tumbling, and hip hop. I had to go through a testing process that included having to score high on areas like "Anatomy of a Dancer", and "Proper technique to avoid injury". I had to know how and why of every single technical movement. Not only did I have to know what I was doing, I also have to be insured. The core strength muscles required for proper pole dancing technique mirrors that of Cirque du Soliel acrobats. How exactly is it that you can sleep at night knowing that anyone who joins your company might attempt to teach adult women how to pole dance, which is honestly more physically demanding than regular forms of dance. Yes, you have disclaimer forms for the pole party guests to sign, but those only would prevent a customer from suing YOU. They can still sue the consultant in the event of injury, and that disclaimer/waiver isn't adequate enough to hold up in all 50 states in a court of law. I personally know someone who lost her dance studio, her car, her home, basically her life, because someone in one of her dance classes didn't follow instructions, and ended up breaking something in their back. Would you go to bat for a consultant who might be sued for something like that? Highly unlikely, since you wouldn't even go to bat for a consultant whose customer waited over 2 months for lingerie, and when the customer wanted you to refund her money, you told the consultant to take the lingerie for her demo line and pay that customer back out of her own pocket. And you told the customer that you are merely the distributor, once items leave your warehouse, it's between the customer and consultant.

So you can say whatever you want to about your own company. And disgruntled customers and consultants will continue to say whatever we want to about your company. It's not "slander" if it's true.
 14 days ago by   BBPinc 0 Votes
I rest my case.

Peter Palmiotto
CEO - Brown Bag Party
 14 days ago by   justanotherexBBPrep -1 Votes
For the record, Peter, I was not terminated. I left on my own after being fed up with how LITTLE support and training I had, seeing some friends get terminated for bogus reasons, and the total lack of ethics.

And what, exactly, do you mean by, "I rest my case?" You didn't say anything that could help your situation here at all.
 14 days ago by   EX-BBP REP -1 Votes
Am I the only one laughing?? I was not terminated either, I quit- just as I said so when I started this complaint.

Peter, this is typical behavior from you. I am not surprised. You avoided the accusations and have not even tried to defend yourself or your Consultant's behavior.
I guess when you say " I rest my case", what you are really saying is...you don't have a case. Are you pleading the 5th?

What is it you want, a name? Sure thing- My name is Amanda and I can be reached by anyone at bamboozled2009@live.com.

To the rest of you that have posted here, I thank you for posting your thoughts and feelings. I felt so much better when I saw that I was not alone.
 14 days ago by   Be Real 0 Votes
All of you sound like Negitive Nellys. You will see over time that EVERY company has bad people with in it.
Be it BBP, SP, PPI, PR and any other company out there.
 14 days ago by   Melanie Leaseburg In The House -1 Votes
True, "Be Real", there are "bad people" everywhere. But the point of this complaint is that the bad behavior starts at the top of this company. I doubt that the owners of SP, PPI, PR, or any other company would turn a blind eye to blatant unethical behavior, especially when it's specifically pointed out. When it was specifically pointed out where the weaknesses are, I was canned. Go figure! HAHAHAHA

By the way, Ex-BBP Rep, you're not the only one laughing, I'm still laughing because there has been nothing come along since me to replace the training that I offered to the company. Notice that wasn't disputed. Neither were any of the other comments. Neither was the outline of one online ad I ran across that has so much WRONG information. Isn't that known as "Bait and Switch", which is against the "Code of conduct"? Wouldn't that make those consultants in violation, too? Hey, at that rate, before you know it, the entire company will be gone due to "violation"!!
 14 days ago by   dylansmommi24 -1 Votes
I totally agree, I had no corp help with BBP, just my wonderful sponsor melanie! But after she was canned, things got weird and i got emails asking me if people were talking crap basically it was like ummm get real? and who cares if they are? corp had time to post that? like we are some lil kid club? "stop talking bad about me! boo whooo" So im with another company now and I'm loving it! products dont come in the mail broken and my customers are happier ... "walmart prices, macys quality" ;)
 14 days ago by   nobrownbagshere 0 Votes
I am also a romance rep but not with Brown Bag party. I am happy to see that others are finally coming out and posting what they have experienced. I have been on the other end of the lies and it has also affected me. I agree with so many of the comments made. Someone recently suggests there are bad apples in all companies which is true, however it is no coincidence that there are so many individual complaints against this company, as they breed their consultants this way! Its the company culture, and yes it starts at the top. I have seen emails directed and targeting other romance reps to come join them, seen myspace and facebook comments of attempts to steal reps. I believe this was part of a training at one of their bootcamps.

I was working with someone who was deciding on which company to go with mine or BBP. She was told lies about my company. I know the person who she was working with, who was the company trainer, and I know she knows our comp plan so this was done intentionally. Granted the recruit should have talked directly to a company rep and not listened to her! Well i kept in touch with this recruit who incidentally went with BBP, and she told me that when her kit came in, it was missing items, items looked old and dusty, and not packaged in the correct boxes, items broken. When she learned more about my company and that she had been lied to, she was extremely upset. She wanted to quit BBP and return her kit however BBP only offers that option within 3 days! So you have 3 days to return a kit, basically you are stuck. She called the company and they told her to try to sell it to another rep or post it on a yahoo group. She was basically stuck with them as she had no money to purchase a kit from another company. She was just a number! No training. What a bad taste to put in a persons mouth about such a great industry.

I have another friend who is pretty high up in my company, and she is always being called by BBP by the corporate trainer no less! Trying to lure her away to their company, this is AFTER she has asked to be taken off their list, a list by the way she never signed up for. You see some of her team had gone with BBP so the corp trainer asked the team members who their sponsor was so they could take her as well...

Karma is a funny thing. Looks like its catching up with them.
 14 days ago by   dylansmommi24 -1 Votes
y would anyone want to join a company with this much drama? seriously thats y i ran for the hills!!
 14 days ago by   exbbprepaswell -1 Votes
Speaking of BUG'S AND CRITTERS...CHECK THIS OUT!! FROM BOOTCAMP 2009

Now, what did you do for your "Girl" here!! NOTHING!! This girl went home and had to suffer with bed bug bites from a DIRTY ASS ENVIROMENT THAT YOU PROVIDED FOR THE GIRLS IN YOUR COMPANY!!!

YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE BUDDY, CUZ YOU AND YOUR BUSINESS IS GOING DOWN!!!
 14 days ago by   exbbprepaswell -2 Votes
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