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Aqua Marine Partners/ Hi Lift Marina
3990 Sheridan St. Suite 107
Aventura / Ft Lauderdale, Florida
United States
Phone: 954-374-2782
ilovemymarina.com
I purchased three vessels from this dealership for a total of $37, 000.00. I have been waiting for free and clear title for over a year now with no end in site. They will not talk to me, I have filed a fraud complaint with the State Police, I have started paperwork with the State attorney's Generals office. These people are downright liars and crooks. I have three boats that I have invested several thousand dollars of repair in and now I owe over $50, 000.00 in storage fees to the marina where the boats have been for the last year
Purchase your boat or have it serviced somewhere else. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THESE THEIVES
Kelly Dobbs 84 Boatyard, Aqua Marine Partners, Hi Lift Marina
Steven Kinderman
Andrew Sturner
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| Hey were they lein boats? If so manytimes it takes a long time to get title, I have had them take 1 month or 1.4 years. It prob. is not their fault, but an issue of the State's legal machine process taking so long. In many cases they have to sell the boats first, with no timefrmae given to when they will get title... Quickly or a long period. 3 boats at 37K seems like they were either small vessels or cheap... |
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They were not lien boats. They were trade-ins on Formula boats, small boats. Passport took the money, but did not pay back the bank. Then they(Passport) went under. They operated at the end knowing they were going under.
If it was the states fault they would not have a problem taking the guys calls and talking to him...and they certainly shouldn't be charging him storage. Passport Marine was run by scammers anyway...even some of their locations were bogus. No surprise here. |
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I don't know about Passport, but I do want to tell you about Aquamarina Hi-lift Marina. DO NOT leave them your credit card information!
If you pay cash make sure you get a WRITTEN RECEIPT. They have ripped off my credit card when I left them the number. It took me
weeks to straighten out with my credit card company. Those that work in the Hi-Lift accounting department are worthless...The police
have already questioned one of their female employees about credit card theft and fraud. The others who work there will not assist you. Be
careful! You will wind up with charges on your card for purchases you never made. |
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Aqua marina Partners, botched repairs makes boat a possible death trap!
My story is a little long, but one everyone should read, if you don't want this to happen to you.
My husband purchased a boat in December of 2009, and it needed some repairs done to the engines. We took the boat to Aquamarina Twin Rivers in Crystal River, Florida. He was given a written estimate of 20hrs. per engine (we have 2 engines = 40 total labor hrs.) @ $85.00 an hr. = $3, 400.00 plus the cost of 2 long block engines which were $4, 790.00 for both. Which equals a grand total of $8, 190.00.
We do not have a problem paying this amount, and realize it was a estimate, give or take a couple hundred dollars would be reasonable. My husband made many trips to the marina as the boat was being repaired to make sure everything was ok, and they were still running within the estimate and every time he went (which was not an easy task for him, because in the middle of all this he is fighting stage 3 kidney cancer) he was assured by their mechanic (which we found out later is not even a certified mechanic) that everything was fine. Thru the process of the boat repairs (per their request) we made a few payments to them for a total of $8, 000.00, so we were looking at owing them just a few hundred more when they were finished...NOW imagine our surprise when my husband received a phone call just 3-weeks after having major surgery, ( he had to have his Kidney remove, because of cancer) from the Manager (Bob) at the marina on June 2, 2010 to tell us the boat was ready and the balance due was $21, 246.79 for a grand total of $29, 246.79.
I know what your thinking, this is incredible, how can a business give a written estimate of $8, 200.00 then turn around and try to extort more than 3 times what the estimate was for. I got right on the phone and called their corporate office Aquamarina Partners, LLC in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida and explained my problem to a man by the name of Gary Jefferson, and was told he would have their COO Steven Kinderman call me. Mr. Kinderman did call me back that day and assured me all the charges were legitimate and he would email me an itemized invoice, which he did.
Now, here's where the fight begins...On the invoice they were charging us for 215.75 hrs of labor (not the 40 hrs quoted on their estimate), plus parts we didn't know anything about. I emailed Mr. Kinderman to try and have a reasonable discussion with him and he either flat out lies or is just plain nasty...At this point they are holding are boat hostage unless we give them $21, 246.79. I called many different state and governmental agencies to try and get help with this, I did file a complaint with the BBB and the Division of consumer services. (which I later had to drop in order to get our boat back.) Mr. Kinderman and I emailed back and forth for a week trying to come to some kind of compromise, and the only way we could get our boat back was to agree to the terms he set forth in an agreement he drew up. Which was totally unfair to us, but our hands were tied at this point.
We gave the Marina another $5, 000.00 for a total of $13, 000.00 to get our boat back, we moved the boat to another marina. My husband and our son went out in the boat for the first time since getting it back from Aquamarina Twin Rivers on Tuesday June 29th, they were going to take our 5 year old grandson with them, and thank God they didn't, because the boat has a gas, oil and water leak in one of the engines. ( which is extremely dangerous, and could catch fire very easily) My husband called Mr. Kinderman the next day to tell him what happened and he could care less, and now he has a lawyer threatening to sue us if we say anything bad about the company or the owner of the company Mr. Andrew Sturner.
So let me sum this up...We paid $13, 000.00 for repairs on a boat that is in worst shape now then before we brought it to Aquamarina Twin Rivers, the boat is leaking gas and oil, which could possibly cause a fire, and we are being threatened by their attorney if we don't keep our mouths shut.
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Barbiequ
If what you say is accurate, you have every right to sue Aquamarina! You have a good case. You guys should get your own lawyer. Don't let them intimidate you by threatening to sue you for speaking out. That is just being done to scare you.
These guys don't have the best reputation in the industry, I can tell you that. I work on boats in Miami, and they have had other lawsuits against them and have lost, or had to settle. Here is a blog from Miami about Aqua Marine Partners you might want to look at. You are not the only people who have been taken advantage of from this company: http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2009/04/a_miami-dade_marina_deal_gets.php
This looks like their MO at all their locations.
You have to fight for justice! |
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BarbieQu,
Disregard the link to the blog I posted above. The blog can't be found for some reason. Try this link:
http://outside.in/coral-gables-fl/matheson-hammock-park
Scroll down to the story " A Miami-Dade Marina deal gets nasty". Hopefully, it is still there. |
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Thanks Ed,
I have that link and many others posted at a little website I put together ( http://www.theaquamarinas.com/ ) Please feel free to go post your thoughts about Aquamarina and if you like you can promote your business too on this site.
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Aqua Marine Partners has in fact put up a ten thousand dollar bond in order to obtain a temporary restraining order and was granted a temporary restraining order by the United States District Court from the Middle District of Florida to stop and shut down theaquamarinas.com. To get this order from the court AMP and the Law Firm of Richard Baron & Associates flat out lied and stated to the court theaquamarinas.com is using and is making money off AMP's name and trade marks and therefore is cybersquatting.
http://www.flmd.uscourts.gov/calendar/wth/wthweek.pdf
WEDNESDAY, JULY 21, 2010
9:00 A.M. PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION HEARING
5:10-cv-300-Oc-10GRJ
Andrew Sturner, et. al.
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Charles Ramos, et. al.
AMP and the Law Firm of Richard Baron & Associates has and is in fact lying to the court. theaquamarinas.com is no more and no less then a Review and Complaints site. All out going links go to this site and others like it. AMP and the Law Firm of Richard Baron & Associates Could not tell the truth to the court because of course websites like theaquamarinas.com and this site are Freedom of speech in the United States and are protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
AMP and the Law Firm of Richard Baron & Associates completely ignore the fact that the site's true purpose is is to express our opinions and frustrations (protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution). AMP and the Law Firm of Richard Baron & Associates is in fact attempting to hide the site's true nature from the court. |
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All anyone has to do is look at the website, theaquamarinas, to see that this website is not in the slightest way being used to make any money in any way for anyone involved.
Aqua Marine Partners "logos" are not being infringed on in any way either.
This website is just being used for discourse and opinions regarding the complaint lodged by Charles Ramos against the business practices of Aqua Marine Partners and peoples opinions on their own dealings with that company.
Don't they have to show HOW you are making money from the site?
What if you started a different site with a different name?
This entire issue needs to be brought to the attention of free speech advocates and defenders and publicized in all possible venues. |
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| Guess you know by now www.theaquamarinas.com is down by court order. The thing is, AMP & Associates wants to keep it so I can not use the website as evidence. AMP & Associates wants to argue over what the website was and what the purpose of the site was. It's like arguing that it's a apple when in fact it's a peach instead of letting the court simply take a look at it. We all know Andy makes his money just like old bernie madoff did. All you have to do is read the blogs and one can conclude old Andy & Associates are running a ponzi scheme. I'm sure they think they have this case all rapped up. But they don't, not by a long shot. I bet they wish I would hurry up and just die. I really do think they are that bad of people. I have one kidney out, running on one good one now. I have a few spots on my lungs, I go the 26th to see another kind of doctor about them. I think and I feel like I have a few years left, I feel good for now anyway. So my plan is to keep swinging, keep fighting. I want to tell you, it was only three weeks after I had my operation when Bob from the twin rivers called me and told me they wanted just under 30, 000.00 for a 10, 000.00 job. At that moment I forgot it was hard to get to the dam bathroom and I felt really strong, I wanted to kick his dam ass, lol. My self, my wife and my three sons, ages 21, 24 and 26 are not the type of people to just roll over. I'm really blessed with a great family and have a lot to hang around for. |
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| You might want to check out debooty.com |
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Chuck, can't you print off the pages of the web-sites content to show the judge?
The purpose of the site is to network with people who might give you advice and information on how to deal with your service problem caused by AMP, s service department, and to get feedback on the company and their business practices so this will not happen to others.
It was set up as basically a blogging site for and about people who wish to let their opinions be heard about a marina business dealing with the public. The site was open for all and any points of view, defenders and detractors, of this particular business.
It is no different then the thousands of blogging sites, web-sites, facebook pages and the like which are set up to defend or complain about any business open to the public...such as a Walmart, McDonald's, Toyota etc. This is the American way...people have the freedom to speak their mind about public people and public companies. They (AMP) had the ability to answer and debunk any complaint made regarding their business practices or dealings. Not liking what is said about your business does not give that business the right to shut down free-speech. |
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| A little surprised at first when I googled debooty.com. But, good going! |
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Aquamarina, Where's the justice!
Sturner, Kinderman and their attorney (Richard Baron) pulled in right beside my wife and I right after I parked. This was the first time I got a look at the boys. After sizing them up (even in my condition) I would have loved to just take them on in the parking lot and be done with it. But can't do that, ya know.
My attorney stated, we are not to concerned about the injunction and are fine to let it stand for now. And he spoke briefly about them stepping on my 1st amendment rights.
Let me paste them here because I don't think Andy knows them.
Speech:
The First Amendment says that people have the right to speak freely without government interference.
Press:
The First Amendment gives the press the right to publish news, information and opinions without government interference. This also means people have the right to publish their own newspapers, newsletters, magazines, etc.
Religion:
The First Amendment prohibits government from establishing a religion and protects each person's right to practice (or not practice) any faith without government interference.
Petition:
The First Amendment says that people have the right to appeal to government in favor of or against policies that affect them or that they feel strongly about. This freedom includes the right to gather signatures in support of a cause and to lobby legislative bodies for or against legislation.
Assembly:
The First Amendment says that people have the right to gather in public to march, protest, demonstrate, carry signs and otherwise express their views in a nonviolent way. It also means people can join and associate with groups and organizations without interference.
I don't think I should blog too much about what happens in court but it was funny to see their attorney start shuffling through papers as soon as he found out I purchased three of the four domain names in question way back in February. You see, the truth is my intentions was to blog in a positive manner about Aquamarina (AMP). But things went south when they started trying screw me out of money and with my boat being all screwed up on top of it I'm just a pissed off customer. What is really amazing to me is these assholes really think they should be able to screw their customers like this and should have the right to keep them from speaking out to others about it.
I feel real good about my attorney:
Thomas L. Edwards
http://www.lawfl.net/Bio/ThomasEdwards.asp
It is a dam shame, I need a attorney just to have the right to speak. I'm just getting started Sturner!
http://www.grass4peace.com/blog/view/id_200/title_Kiss-my-ass-Sturner/
http://www.livebandsforhire.com/blog/main/ |
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Great to hear. I still don't understand what grounds they have for suing you.
They are just making you some kind of a hero. |
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