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1998 Honda Accord Complaints - Honda USA

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1998 Honda Accord

Posted: 2006-08-23 by Myles [send email]
Honda USA
Complaint Rating:  100 % with 4 votes
I have a 1998 Honda Accord with 60,000 miles. Recently, the car started to leak a muddy like substance. The car was towed to a local mechanic who researched the problem on his paid access sites and advised it was probably due to a cracked engine block. I was amazed at how quickly the mechanic could diagnose the problem based on the symptoms. Research over the Internet have shown over thirty cases of cracked engine blocks. Discussions with Honda Certified mechanics (who wish to remain nameless for fear of their job, advise me that there is a know problem with 1998 Hondas and they have seen more than a few cracked engine blocks. Both the internet reports and the mechanics believe this to be a flaw with the design of the car.

I called Honda USA and asked for assistance repairing the Honda with only 60,000 miles. I was told to have it towed to a Honda dealer at a cost of $300, pay the dealer for labor to determine the problem at a cost estimate of $500 and then Honda would see what they could do.

I thought the investment of $800 with no guarantee of any reparation was a foolish thing to do. I pressed Honda USA for assistance, was finally (after over 20 calls) was given a case number. I included in the case that I have been a loyal Honda customer for over 20 years and provided documentation of service history and findings of my research. I was told by the case worker “we will not assist repairing an 8 year old car”. This leaves me with the option of buying a used or re-built engine (Honda no longer sells new engines) and having it installed at a cost close to the blue book value of the automobile, or going without a car.

I though the direction by Honda USA of having a dealer look at the car before they would promise anything even knowing this was going to cost the customer $800, was morally wrong. Further, not providing assistance to a long time Honda customer shows there is no company loyalty to the customers who purchase (and continue to purchase) their automobiles.

And I would still like to know why a car with who advertises that their cars are built to last beyond 200,000 miles would have a cracked engine block at 60,000 miles regardless of age.

I am presently saving up to buy a Toyota.

Myles

Port Washington

New York
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650 days ago by Jason Palette [send email]
I was shocked to hear your story and a story like yours from a customer of mine. I see cars at a Honda dealership in Ohio and I immediately asked the shop if they have ever seen one, they haven't. I do disagree about what you say about Honda's assistance. I realize your loyalty to the brand, but there is no other manufacturer that would help you either, and that includes Toyota. It is a known fact that head gaskets go on Pontiac grand ams, transmissions on dodges with 70k on them and countless of other problems that involve more than 30 cars out of hundreds of thousands, and these manufacturers offer ZERO assistance. Cars are man made, they are not perfect, and thirty known out of hundreds of thousands is really good percentage wise. Being in the auto industry and seeing what people who are loyal to other brands accept as normal (fuel and water pumps on 40k trailblazers) and then see the outrage when a Honda has a problem. I think that we as Honda loyalists have been spoiled with the safest and most reliable cars, and blow problems out of proportion when they do happen.
641 days ago by Myles Nachamie [send email]
Jason,

I appreciate your opinion, and while I am very disappointed that a HONDA would have a major issue with only 60K miles, this is primarily a customer service issue with Honda America.

When I called customer service I was treated very poorly:
1. I had to call repeatedly in order to get a case open to discuss the issue.
2. Was advised to spend an extra $500 to have the car towed to a dealer, with no guarantee of any assistance or trade in before they were willing to even talk about the issue.
3. And when I was finally sent over to a case worker, I was told (quite nastily) "we won't do anything for an 8 year old car”. When I asked for a trade in credit toward a new car, I was told “NO”.

The simple solution would have been "bring the car in and we will give you an estimate on the repair. If you want the car repaired, we’ll take care of it (at a cost), if not we will give you a trade in credit of $ toward a new Honda.” I believe Car dealerships still offer trade-in credit for old cars when buying a new one (I got a trade in for my old mini-van last year when I bought the new Honda Odyssey).

Why wouldn’t Honda offer this to a 20+ year Honda owner? If this was offered, I would probably be driving a replacement Honda today.

This was just poor customer service, which just maybe why Toyota is the top selling car in the US as opposed to Honda.

Note:
1. Since posting, I have received 36 e-mails on the same problem on the same model Honda Accords.
2. Since posting, I have e-mails from several car dealerships (none of them Honda, but several Toyota) to provide a blue-book trade in credit toward a new or used car.

Feel free to e-mail me directly to discuss further.

Myles
Port Washington, NY
196 days ago by Deanna [send email]
Interesting to read about your cracked block. I have a 1997 Accord SE with 101, 000 on it and it just developed a cracked engine block. I have owned it since 35, 000 miles, have not driven it hard, have taken good care of it, and it has never overheated. I am really disappointed because I was planning on driving this until at least 200k. Before the crack, it ran perfect. I am hoping that this doesn't happen again when I buy my next Honda. I still really like the cars in general.
172 days ago by Chris [send email]
An 8 year old car with a cracked block? Happens. It's no longer under warranty. How are they responsible? If you drove hondas for 20 years why would one bad car be enough to change that? Just pick up a new block from a junk yard and have it installed. You know yourself that hondas are good cars, but like every manufacturer they all have a product that flopped. If you got 8 years out of it with no issues.. I wouldn't complain too hard and I would avoid huge puddles after a long run (#1 cause of cracked blocks).
151 days ago by Walt Reed [send email]
As a former Honda Rep, of 14 years, I can say with great confidence that Honda's will outlast anything on the road, up to and possibly including Toyota. However, they MUST be maintained. Honda does not and never has advertised that their cars last over 200, 000 miles. Their VERY HAPPY customers do that for them. I just bought a Civic with over 210, 000 miles on it- runs great! Honda sells over 1, 000, 000 million cars every year in the United States alone. Of those, less than 1% fail. Failure that occurs in the first 36, 000 miles, and generally up to 50, 000 miles is usually covered by warranty assistance. At 60, 000 miles- you're on your own, and you should be!

I have a very hard time believing you are a loyal Honda customer. In my experience, people who have trouble with their Honda's usually have them serviced by, "MY MECHANIC, " not their dealer. This usually leads to things not being done on a regular basis, or use of non-Honda or "just as good" parts. Using the wrong brand anti-freeze can clog the journals in a Honda block and cause heating and circulation problems.

If you want an overall lower cost of ownership, buy and service at your dealer- regardless of what you buy.
139 days ago by Kevin Gish [send email]
I've been in the automotive field and an auto restorer for as long as i can remember, and i've never heard of any auto company (foriegn or domestic) that will waranty or help with any problem after 60, 000 miles. I had a problem with a GM vehicle that would fry computers with no warning after only 18000 miles and it took three months and repeated calls to GM to finally get them to lemon it back. And this was after I got the service manager, vise manager, and two mechanics fired over writing maint reports for different things to hide the fact that they had no clue what was wrong with it. There are going to be lemons in any brand no matter how high the standards. I just purchased a 98 accord EX V6 with 80, 000 miles and took it to my own mechanic to be inspected and it checked out great. Several family members have had V6 accords of different years, one of which road races his and commutes daily to school with it with absolutly no problems what so ever. Most of them utilizes the dealer services but many of us do not and I can tell you without any reluctance that your misfortune is the exception not the rule. As for your experiance with honda corp well that shouldn't be a surprise they sell millions of cars a year a few blown engines out so many is to be expected no vehicle is infalable, and they do not issue warranties for that long so why should they cover yours. And they problibly would have given you a trade alowance if you would have taken it in for them to look at; they might have even waved the costs if you would have bought a new car from them. They have done so for me and another member of my family in the past. One of my nefiews wrected his acura RSX (honda Civc) and they not only fixed the damage they took it back as a trade on a new one after the repairs were done.

So I feel that you may be jumping to negative conclusions without looking at the bigger picture. They have millions of cars on the road 30, 40, or even 100 or more bad engines is a very miniscule number to call them all bad.
125 days ago by Randall Nash [send email]
While I can understand that any mechanical object can fail. This is not a mechanical complaint but a customer service one.
1. Honda would not offer an alternative for an $500 tow charge plus labor to look at a problem without any guarantees? I don't blame the writer. Why throw away more money at a problem with no promise of return?

2. An offer to provide a trade in value toward the purchase of a new car if the repair bill was high is not an unreasonable expectation. Not only would have Honda sold a new car, the dealer could have repaired the old one and possibly generated a used car sale as well. According to the writer, Toyota offered a trade in credit toward a new car site unseen; Why wouldn't Honda?

3. Any representatives were rude is simply unacceptable.

And as a rebuttal to two comments:
1. We have no idea how many cases are out there. All we know is the writer advises of searches online, e-mail responses to this post and Honda mechanics who know of the problem. Recalls of cars only occur if there is a safety risk to the driver, not for failed mechanical problems. There could be thousands, we just don't know.

2. The writer advises "My Mechanic" which may imply they have done all the service, but does not outwardly state this. It could have been a local mechanic who towed the car. We have no idea.
125 days ago by Joe [send email]
1998 car. My goodness... your petty. The car is nearing 10 years old! You didn't buy a new Mercedes. You bought an old Honda.

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