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Five Tip-Offs to Mechanic Rip-Offs

Five Tip-Offs to Mechanic Rip-OffsGetting the right repairs at a fair price depends partly on communicating with your mechanic.Do your homework and be wary of what the mechanic may say. Sometimes a little embellishment can have you digging deep into your pockets.

Unless you're a car mechanic yourself, dealing with a repair shop may require a leap of faith. But if you pay attention to what your mechanic says (and does), you'll find clues that could tell you whether you're being bamboozled. Here are some things mechanics may say when they're planning to take you for a ride—and we don't mean in your car.

  1. "Get that engine flushed right away or it's toast."
    Beware if your mechanic's idea of "scheduled maintenance" bears little resemblance to the recommendations in your owner's manual. Some shops "build the ticket" (translation: pad the bill) by recommending extra and often unnecessary procedures, such as engine and transmission flushes, or by scheduling some tasks prematurely. Some hawk high-priced "generic" maintenance schedules that may omit procedures your car needs.

Be especially concerned if the shop makes every recommendation sound like an emergency, says Larry Hecker, president of the Motorist Assurance Program (www.motorist.org), a nonprofit group that accredits repair shops.

  1. "That rebuilt Camry alternator will run you $899."
    If you happen to know that your cousin paid only $399 for similar work, you'd better call around to check. Although good shops may charge higher prices to cover the cost of top-flight technicians and equipment, bills that are always 20 to 30 percent more than the going rate should put you on guard, warns John Nielsen, director of AAA's Automotive Repair Network. You can poll other shops to find out how much mechanics in your area are charging for common repairs and maintenance. For complex problems, try comparing the price of the parts alone by calling parts stores or dealer parts departments, advises Deanna Sclar, an auto repair expert and author of Auto Repair for Dummies.
  2. "We thought the new fuel injectors would fix it, but it looks like you need a new fuel pump."
    Uh-oh. You may be dealing with a so-called parts replacer, that is, a mechanic who's literally rebuilding your car because he can't diagnose the problem, says Chuck Roberts, executive director for industry relations at the National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence, an organization that certifies auto technicians. Make the mechanic justify the initial repair. Even if it was an honest misdiagnosis, the shop should refund the amount of the first repair or discount the next one. If the mechanic gets the diagnosis wrong again, stop replacing parts and replace the shop.
  3. "With some cars, it's not unusual to go through a starter every year."
    Yeah, right. This may be a tip-off that the shop did the work incorrectly or used poor-quality or makeshift parts instead of proper ones. Call some other shops to find out what they think or check the Web to see if there's a discussion group devoted to your model and its problems. You might also want to take the car to another repair shop for a second opinion. If the original job was lacking, ask the shop that did the work to repeat the repair either without charge or at a substantial discount.
  4. "You have to bring your car back to the dealership for service."
    Sure, the dealer wants all the lucrative repair and maintenance jobs. But generally, you need to use a dealer only for work covered under the warranty, recalls, post-warranty fixes you're hoping the manufacturer will pay for under its "good will" program, or high-tech systems that require a dealership's specialists.

How to talk to your mechanic

Getting the right repairs at a fair price depends partly on communicating with your mechanic. Here's what to say and to expect:

  • Describe the problem fully. Provide as much information as possible. Write down the symptoms and when they occur. If possible, talk directly to the mechanic who will be working on your car.
  • Don't offer a diagnosis. Avoid saying what you think is causing the problem. You may be on the hook for any repairs the shop makes at your suggestion, even if they don't solve the problem.
  • Request a test drive. If the problem occurs only when the car is moving, ask the mechanic to accompany you on a test drive.
  • Ask for evidence. If you're not comfortable with the diagnosis, ask the shop to show you. Worn brake pads or rusted exhaust pipes are easy to see. Don't let the mechanic refuse your request by saying that his insurance company doesn't allow customers into the work area. Insist on evidence anyway.
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441 days ago by Aaron [send email]
I'm a mechanic. If someone says that you aren't allowed in the shop because of insurance regulations, it's generally because you aren't allowed in the shop because of insurance regulations. If you're out gawking at the underside of your vehicle and the mechanical safety latch fails on the hoist and the car happens to fall on you, and injure/kill you - you are at fault. If I drop something and it lands on your foot? You are at fault.

In addition - if I quote you a job at $650, and you tell me XYZ Garage will do it for $450, you know what I'm going to tell you? Take it over there!
426 days ago by Peter [send email]
"if I quote you a job at $650, and you tell me XYZ Garage will do it for $450, you know what I'm going to tell you? Take it over there!"

I work in an industry where people do this too. Obviously there is some reason you don't want to use the other shop otherwise you wouldn't be asking me to match their price. If you were comfortable using the other shop and paying their price you would have just gone there. What you are really asking me to do is match the price of someone you wouldn't trust your car to. Why should I? If my prices are completely out of line, I'll be driven out of business.
227 days ago by Yanet Cueto [send email]
Hi there,

How can I complain about Tom's Automotive in Sylmar CA? They worked on my car and I know the owner personally. My car is worst off than what it was when I dropped it off and they will not return my calls. I know for a fact that they drink at the shop...and other things...only because I know the owner. I am concerned about the safety of my car...I do not want to have the owner come to my home or work place because I fear that there will be retaliation because I am telling on the way they run Tom's Automotive...I know him and his family personally, but the shop is not on top of things...they are doing a lousy job. Please help me....
71 days ago by Keith Gordon [send email]
"if I quote you a job at $650, and you tell me XYZ Garage will do it for $450, you know what I'm going to tell you? Take it over there!"

I work in an industry where people do this too. Obviously there is some reason you don't want to use the other shop otherwise you wouldn't be asking me to match their price. If you were comfortable using the other shop and paying their price you would have just gone there. What you are really asking me to do is match the price of someone you wouldn't trust your car to. Why should I? If my prices are completely out of line, I'll be driven out of business.

This is probably because they are taking their car around a few different place to check the prices. If you tell them to take their car there, then they probably will, and you will lose business and the cheaper place will gain business. DUH
3 days ago by mariana [send email]
hi ...

i have intrepid ...transmition gone....went to mechanic ...he said he will order used one...after 10 days said is done..i have paid him...after 2 days again same problem...took car back and it is second week and mechanic still did not solve the problem....he said he has been ordered another transmition...did not arrived...then it came wrong one....then he order another...and all those come from usa..
i dont know what to do and where to go ...it is one month without the car and it is not wright....
please if you know tell me what to do...

thank you in advance,
mariana

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