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Don't get ripped off by a rebate 'deal'It's not a great buy until you’ve cashed the rebate check -- and a lot of companies are earning bad reputations for making that as difficult as possible.

The pitches are irresistible: Get a $100 hard drive for $30 after rebate. Score the latest $150 cell phone with digital camera for nada. Make $10 by mailing in a rebate form for virus-protection software.

Rebates like these have become pervasive as retailers and manufacturers look for ways to discount without permanently marking down the prices of their products.

Now, nearly a third of all computer products and 20% of electronics, such as digital cameras and flat-screen TVs, are sold with rebates, according to the NPD Group. In part, that's because only an estimated 50% to 70% of buyers redeem them.

But these discounts are not always the sure bargains that consumers think they are. Many manufacturers and retailers have come under scrutiny for delaying payment, imposing hard-to-fulfill restrictions or making forms too complex -- and therefore, too easy to reject.

In Vic Giannini's case, the rebate check came, but it couldn't be cashed. The Akron, Ohio, retiree received the $45 rebate he was promised for purchasing a Maxtor hard drive from online retailer Tiger Direct. After he deposited the check, he got a notice from his bank, stating that the account with Tiger Direct's fulfillment house, Onrebate.com, could not be found. To make matters worse, the bank charged him a $25 fee for processing the invalid check.

"Then I was out $70," Giannini complained. He says he called and e-mailed both Tiger Direct and Onrebate.com, and got no response.

So Giannini posted a report complaining about his experience on www.complaintsboard.com and threatened to file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, the primary agency overseeing rebate abuse. Onrebate.com has since offered to cut Giannini a new check.

"What they are banking on is (that) you aren't even going to bother," Giannini said.

More hoops, more hassle

Indeed, while analysts say it is easier than ever to track the status of your rebate both online and through 800 numbers, rebate rules and forms have gotten more complicated.

"They make it so you have to jump through all these tiny little hoops," said Ed Magedson, editor and founder of the Ripoffreport.com. "And then when you do, they say you didn't get it there on time."

With consumer complaints to the FTC and Better Business Bureau escalating, regulators are ramping up their scrutiny of rebates.

The FTC has fined a handful of companies for failing to pay consumers or for paying them late. Last year, it settled its first case with a retailer, Dallas-based CompUSA, for knowingly advertising rebates from computer peripherals manufacturer QPS Inc., even after CompUSA officials knew the manufacturer wasn't paying the rebates or was paying them as much as six months late. Indeed, the FTC said CompUSA continued to advertise the rebates until shortly before QPS filed for bankruptcy protection in August 2002.

Now, after settling with the FTC, CompUSA must advertise a specific time frame for rebates. The retailer must also bear financial responsibility for any rebates not paid during the time specified.

A CompUSA spokesman declined comment on the settlement, other than to say, "We feel we do an excellent job of fulfilling rebates to the benefit of our customers."

However, at least one customer says CompUSA's rebate problems haven't been solved.

Bill Rubin, a 40-year-old operations manager in Yorktown Heights, N.Y., is still waiting for $56 of the $161 in rebates he was promised last August after a $195 purchase of Hawking Technologies networking equipment at CompUSA. Both Hawking Technologies and CompUSA say the money is on its way -- after many complaints -- but Rubin is still waiting, long past the promised 10- to 12-week window.

"You learn your lessons from some of this stuff," Rubin said. In this case, he said, he will never buy Hawking products again and will look twice to see who's handling a rebate before making a purchase.

There ought to be a law …

"Everyone I know has horror stories about rebates," said California State Sen. Liz Figueroa, who introduced a bill in 2004 to establish guidelines for mail-in rebates. That bill, which would have given consumers 30 days to apply for a rebate after purchase and guaranteed payment 60 days after application, passed the California House and Senate, only to be shot down later that year by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

However, with growing bipartisan support for rebate reform and new advisers in the governor's office, Figueroa plans to reintroduce the bill.

"Republicans and Democrats," she says with a laugh, "we all agree on one thing: We hate rebates."

Other states have also begun tackling rebate issues on their own.

One of the first to take action was New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer. Spitzer settled a case with cell-phone maker Samsung Electronics America in 2004 for failing to pay rebates. The company agreed to pay $200,000 to more than 4,100 consumers whose rebates were denied simply because they lived in apartment buildings. Samsung's rebate system only allowed one rebate per address and didn't have space to submit apartment numbers.

In Connecticut, state officials are now investigating several retailers that list only prices after rebate in their ads -- a practice that is illegal in the state.

Meanwhile, Massachusetts, in conjunction with 40 other states, is taking on a company that handles rebates. It has sued the nation's largest rebate fulfillment company, Minnesota-based Young America Corp., demanding that it submit to an audit of the uncashed rebate checks it has kept in recent years -- money known in the industry as "slippage" -- in exchange for charging its clients lower processing fees.

Who keeps the uncashed checks?

According to SEC filings, Young America kept $42.9 million in uncashed rebates between 1995 and 2002. Massachusetts Treasurer Tim Cahill believes the company has held onto $129 million worth of uncashed checks.

Cahill believes this practice has provided incentive for Young America to cheat consumers. This money should be turned over to the states' abandoned property divisions so that consumers can claim it, he says.

"There is an appearance of deception here," Cahill said. "We want to shine some sunlight on this practice. It sends a message to other firms. They are holding onto other people's money that doesn't belong to them."

Cahill says he is also "concerned" by some of the confusing forms used to deny consumers their money.

For their part, Young America officials say they have refused audits in Massachusetts and other states because they don't believe uncashed rebates are unclaimed property, a claim it says has been affirmed by the states of Minnesota and Oklahoma, where it previously had operations.

Young America Chief Executive Roger Andersen says that his company has no incentive to reject applicants to keep the money.

"We don't get any checks or funds for disqualified customers," he said.

He admits, though, that some retail clients have pushed for confusing programs that would result in a lower redemption rate. "We decided that we didn't want to do business with them," Andersen said. "Anything that gives our industry a bad name…is going to erode the acceptability of rebates as a promotional tool."

Indeed, at least one major retailer, Minneapolis-based Best Buy, has said it plans to eliminate all mail-in rebates by 2007. Last week, the company said it was no longer advertising mail-in rebates for laptop computers and was instead offering instant savings. Best Buy also recently launched an online rebate submission tool, so customers don't have to mail in forms and UPC codes.

But, analysts caution, there's a price to be paid for not dealing with the headaches of rebates: higher prices.

"It's a case of be careful of what you ask for," said Steve Baker, vice president of industry analysis for Port Washington, N.Y.-based NPD. If mail-in rebates are replaced with more expensive instant discounts, he said, "you may see some great deals go away."

6 keys to getting the rebate you earned

  • Follow the instructions on the rebate form religiously, enclosing all the required documentation, such as UPC codes or receipts in the same envelope. Some rebates require you to submit each one separately, so read the fine print.
  • Make a copy of all paperwork to be mailed when applying for a rebate. It's the only record you have if something goes wrong. Some rebate veterans also suggest sending paperwork for larger rebates by certified mail, or getting a delivery confirmation so you can verify the form was sent when you say it was.
  • Contact the company if the rebate doesn't arrive within the time promised. Most retailers, manufacturers and rebate fulfillment companies have Web sites and 800 numbers where you can track your rebate and complain if your rebate stalls or is rejected. (Many customers have said that they were able to reverse a rejection or resolve a problem with one phone call.)
  • If the rebate never arrives or arrives late, file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, your state attorney general or the local Better Business Bureau.
  • If all else fails, set up your own Web site or post on someone else's blog to draw attention to the issue. One enterprising consumer set up www.radioshackrebatefraud.com last month, when it looked like he and other consumers would not get the two rebates Radio Shack promised in a one-day pre-Christmas promotion on its Web site. Several weeks and several TV interviews later, the company said it would honor both rebates, which were held up by a company input error. Radio Shack and other retailers such as Tiger Direct say they monitor many shopping forums and consumer gripe sites and will try and correct any unresolved customer issues they see.
  • Lastly, only buy things you can afford without the rebate. While fulfillment company Young America claims it now processes rebates in a third of the time it used to, the reality is that some rebates can be held up for months.

By Melinda Fulmer
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 722 days ago by C F  [send email]
You should know the link provided (www.radioshackrebatefraud.com) in the above article 'Don't Get Ripped Off by a Rebate 'Deal'', is redirected to http://zoo.parkingspa.com/nmssad.htm.
 714 days ago by marc handelman  [send email]
Federal, state, and local regulators have aggressively prosecuted marketers whose rebate offers were deemed deceptive or unfair. State legislatures have also taken aim at perceived rebate abuses, adding new rules to the regulatory landscape. To help marketers avoid rebate pitfalls, the Promotion Marketing Association has just released its "Best Practices for Rebates." The guidelines include important tips on how to structure, communicate, and fulfill rebate offers properly. For a copy of the guides, visit http://www.pmalink.org/news/default.asp?p=rebates . If you have any questions about the guides, or about other rebate issues, please contact Jeffrey A. Greenbaum at (212) 826-5525 or jgreenbaum@fkks.com.
 549 days ago by Alan Peters  [send email]
Young America got its name from Young America Minnesota, the city where they started this business.

I had family that worked at Young America for data entry.

At times as many as 60% of the rebate programs being run through the facility had less than 20% of rebates filled.

Most people just don't follow up on rebates and due to the length of time most rebates take to fulfill many people forget that they even sent them in.

So while "Higher Prices" listed above might be a price to be paid the reality is the higher prices are already being paid by 80% of the consumers and the companies that offer these rebates are well aware of those numbers. If they can offer a $25.00 rebate on a $100.00 product and advertise it as $75.00 with the rebate knowing full well that only 20% of the respondents will even get the rebate they just sold 80% of the people on getting the discount.

Most people use that rebated number as the price they paid and I have caught many friends and family quoting the rebated price and forgetting to fill out the rebate so they actually paid more.

Why doesn't the government do more?

Because you pay TAX on that purchase at the full price. So they get the benefit of taxing you for the $100 purchase instead of an instant rebate where they would only get the tax on $75.00 and where government is involved, don't look for them to help you keep any of your hard earned money.

Rebates as far as I am concerned are a scam, a legal way to thieve money from hard working Americans. While it tends to be their fault for not filling out the forms, it is a pain in the butt and the companies know it.

Many thanks to Best Buy for ending the rebate fraud.
 441 days ago by woineshet  [send email]
Imso sory
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 401 days ago by Charles W Peters  [send email]
I once perchased two cans of spray carberator cleaner because it was a great price after rebate. On reading the rules I found that I would need to empty the cans and cut the upc code out of the metal can, who is going to do that?
 352 days ago by David Adedokun  [send email]
Frys Electronics in Texas, specifically the store on Matlock and I20 in Arlington TX, run that rebate scams too. I wonder if there is anyone who has ever received any rebate check from items bought at Frys. I have never , so I stop buying anything with a mail in rebate from that store, I only buy the items that have instant saving at the register.
The item I bought with mail- in from this store, I went directly from the store to the post office, which is close by this store and mailed the rebate form but never got a dime back. However I have received a lot of rebate checks from Tigerdirect even on my LCD HDTV

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